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Gates of hell
« on: January 07, 2011, 03:49:47 PM »
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Are you aloud to add a demon that was already in back to battle with gates of hell.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2011, 03:54:05 PM »
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Are you aloud to add a demon that was already in back to battle with gates of hell.

If I understand your question correctly, you are asking: "Am I allowed to add a demon that was already in battle back to the same battle with the gates of hell?".  If that is your question the answer is no.  Characters can only enter the same battle one time.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2011, 07:37:28 PM »
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 This is the difference between tournament host and non-tournament host. Not really, but maybe one day we can have test for judge certifications.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2011, 08:47:38 PM »
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This is the difference between tournament host and non-tournament host. Not really, but maybe one day we can have test for judge certifications.

Perhaps I misunderstood you, are you saying my answer is incorrect?  Or did I just misinterpret what you said?
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 08:50:41 PM »
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Yeah, I don't understand what you are saying RTSM.

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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 09:01:03 PM »
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He  Wants there to be a test in order to be a judge. And then have a list of certified judges.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 09:24:20 PM »
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is it just me, or was his comment kind of random?
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 10:39:33 PM »
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It was indeed random, yet funny and relevant at the same time. I think he is saying that this question would make a good quiz question for tournament host certification.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 10:56:22 PM »
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Srry.

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It was indeed random, yet funny and relevant at the same time.

Got me pegged to a tee.

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I think he is saying that this question would make a good quiz question for tournament host certification.
All you need for that is to host a tournament. To judge one on the other hand...and Cactus can give some incentive while charging for the test to cover cost.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 10:58:22 PM »
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You can add the demon back to battle if it is generic, shuffled, and you have multiples in your deck. I think.

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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 11:00:32 PM »
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You can add the demon back to battle if it is generic, shuffled, and you have multiples in your deck. I think.

sounds wrong and i mean broken. but...

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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 11:11:53 PM »
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I still don't understand the question. Can you post what GoH does please?

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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2011, 02:26:58 AM »
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Re: Gates of hell
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2011, 02:48:19 AM »
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 03:30:31 AM »
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Are you aloud to add a demon that was already in back to battle with gates of hell.

No you can not. No character may be re-enter a battle they have already been in once placed back into deck. However, you can still used gates to put the demons on the bottom of your deck back into your territory and discard gates to add a demon who has yet to enter battle to the current battle.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 07:14:40 AM »
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The only exception is with Generic characters. If a generic character has left play, then re-entered play, GoH can re-introduce it to battle. An example would be Wandering Spirit being hit by AotL, brought back with GoH, then re-introduced by Discarding GoH.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 07:26:30 AM »
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Srry.

Plus 1 Korunks.


Its ok I figured I misinterpreted it.

The only exception is with Generic characters. If a generic character has left play, then re-entered play, GoH can re-introduce it to battle. An example would be Wandering Spirit being hit by AotL, brought back with GoH, then re-introduced by Discarding GoH.

I thought that rule only applied if there were multiple copies in a deck?  Which in T1 is a a rare occurrence.  Can anyone point to the definitve ruling for this?
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2011, 10:09:10 AM »
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So let me get this straight. If I have a generic demon in battle like WS to a bunch of legions then they AOCP me. I can get them out via gates and put them all back in battle banded but things like Kot and POTW can't re-enter.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2011, 11:15:57 AM »
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That's correct. The reason the rule works that way is that in cases of generic characters, there is no memory of the character by title in battle, otherwise WS wouldn't be able to band to WS. There is memory of the individual card, but that memory gets erased when the card resets in deck. Therefore, if a generic is brought back out again it has no longer already entered battle.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2011, 11:41:25 AM »
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That's correct. The reason the rule works that way is that in cases of generic characters, there is no memory of the character by title in battle, otherwise WS wouldn't be able to band to WS. There is memory of the individual card, but that memory gets erased when the card resets in deck. Therefore, if a generic is brought back out again it has no longer already entered battle.

Is this generally true, or only if you have more than one copy of the generic character in your deck?
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2011, 11:44:04 AM »
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I'd say generally true but INE.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2011, 11:47:37 AM »
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I'd say generally true but INE.
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I'm asking about official rules. If I only have one Wandering Spirit in my deck, then the next time I see one, I will know it was the same one.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2011, 01:06:42 PM »
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You can do it as long as it went to your deck. But what if it was just returned to territory then would it be able to re-enter via gates.
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Re: Gates of hell
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2011, 01:36:15 PM »
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Whether or not you have more than one copy of it doesn't matter. It has to do with how the "once per battle" rule works in relation to generics.
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