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CARD NAME: Foreign SpearmanCARD TYPE: Evil CharacterCLASS: WarriorIDENTIFIERS: GenericSTATS: 6/6BRIGADE COLOR: Multi-colorSPECIAL ABILITY: While blocking alone, toss all enhancements that are played this battle. Cannot be interrupted.Scenario: I block with Archers of Kedar and band to Foreign Spearman. FS is equipped with Two Thousand Horses, which activate normally. I play Haman's Plot to discard two of my opponent's characters and my Archers of Kedar. Now we are tossing enhancements; does 2KH get tossed immediately now, or just sit in battle?
Did I miss something?How can 2khorses activate on spearman? Wouldn't his ability make the horse simply tossed?
While blocking alone,
Scenario: I block with Archers of Kedar and band to Foreign Spearman.
Just to ask for question sake... Block with Foreign Spearman with 2k ponies attached.Pony activates.Assuming you choose to play a card via the 2k ponies ability... would the card you played via 2k ponies be tossed or would it activate normally?
Ok so just for clarity sake, cause there is another thread in here that says weapons still "work" with FS. I don't have time to search it out and quote it tonight but I know I read that in here. So if you have an enhancement like Goliath's Armor on FS and you block with him solo the armor is tossed? (Wastefully cause it is 0/5 and has no effect when tossed) So just to be clear, any WC enhancement on FS is tossed if he is blocking solo, unless his ability has been negated prior to him entering battle. "While blocking alone, toss all enhancements that are played this battle. Cannot be interrupted." "Played" refers to when the WC enhancement's special ability or numbers activate in battle and not when the WC enhancement was "played" on FS outside of battle in the territory.
I guess the only thing that gets me is the "must come from hand" cause a weapon on FS as he enters battle doesn't fit the "must come from hand" if it were played in the territory on a previous turn. I guess logically all placed weapons came from hand at some point, but that part of the wiki confuses the issue a little. It almost makes it sound like they intended for weapons already on FS to stay on him and remaining him while tossed enhancements come from your hand.
"Played" refers to when the WC enhancement's special ability or numbers activate in battle and not when the WC enhancement was "played" on FS outside of battle in the territory.
I agree weapons are placed, but the third definition on the wiki basically says anything coming out your hand onto the play surface is "played" "You play any other card type by putting it face up on the playing surface from hand, deck, or discard pile due to your special ability or game action, except when you discard a card from hand." Also they need to change the REG/wiki wording of toss. The "must come from hand" phrase has my play group wanting to leave "placed" weapons on FS because they "didn't come from hand" and were not played, but placed outside battle, even outside that turn. I understand their confusion. The biggest issue here is we tell players "go learn from the REG, Wiki, ect to learn and if the REG says tossed enhancements "must come from hand" it seems to the noobs another player is misleading them by telling them post on the message boards trump whet they think they see on the REG. Is the "Must come from hand" phrase so characters can't toss from storehouse or an artifact?
Quote from: The ARk on June 11, 2014, 02:28:43 PMI agree weapons are placed, but the third definition on the wiki basically says anything coming out your hand onto the play surface is "played" "You play any other card type by putting it face up on the playing surface from hand, deck, or discard pile due to your special ability or game action, except when you discard a card from hand." Also they need to change the REG/wiki wording of toss. The "must come from hand" phrase has my play group wanting to leave "placed" weapons on FS because they "didn't come from hand" and were not played, but placed outside battle, even outside that turn. I understand their confusion. The biggest issue here is we tell players "go learn from the REG, Wiki, ect to learn and if the REG says tossed enhancements "must come from hand" it seems to the noobs another player is misleading them by telling them post on the message boards trump whet they think they see on the REG. Is the "Must come from hand" phrase so characters can't toss from storehouse or an artifact?Agreed that the wording in the REG is a bit sloppy. There's an implied 'Or' to the structure that really needs to be made more explicit. The 'any other card type' clause is referencing card types that have not been listed yet. Enhancements have their own definition for played - the first bullet point ("You play an enhancement by attempting to activate its special ability"). Since weapons fall into the enhancement card type, this is the point that governs when they are considered to be played.
A card is considered “played” if it meets these criteria: You play an enhancement by attempting to activate its special ability (or numbers in battle) You play a character or multicolor site by putting it in your territory or your side of the battle. You play any other card type by putting it face up on the playing surface from hand, deck, or discard pile due to your special ability or game action, except when you discard a card from hand.
I don't know why you are saying the "any other card type" is referencing card types that have not been listed, because referencing card types that have been listed.Quote from: REGA card is considered “played” if it meets these criteria: You play an enhancement by attempting to activate its special ability (or numbers in battle) You play a character or multicolor site by putting it in your territory or your side of the battle. You play any other card type by putting it face up on the playing surface from hand, deck, or discard pile due to your special ability or game action, except when you discard a card from hand. The "other card type" is referring to enhancements, characters and multicolored sites that are listed in the first two bullets.
Right so anything that comes out ya' hand face up onto the playing surface is played with the exception of discarded cards. WC enhancements are "played" as they are placed on ECs. That's all gravy.
QuoteRight so anything that comes out ya' hand face up onto the playing surface is played with the exception of discarded cards. WC enhancements are "played" as they are placed on ECs. That's all gravy. Mm, no, that's not what _JM_ was saying. Weapons are "placed" when they are put on a character. Weapons are "played" when their abilities/numbers are activated.
