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does the anti-burial ls still work if the fbtn ls is in play?

Galatians 3_13 (AW)
Type: Lost Soul • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: While this card is in a Land of Redemption, all cards in that player's Land of Bondage are protected from Burial. • Play As: While this card is in a Land of Redemption, protect all cards in that player's Land of Bondage from Burial.

Luke 19_10 (Di)
Type: Lost Soul • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Beginning in the phase after this card is put in play, negate all special abilities on Lost Soul cards (except this one).

why wouldnt anti-burial work if fbtn was out prior?

i would say the precedent would be all other cards' special abilities that dont specify location default to play. this is why other lost souls do not work while in lor, and maybe why anti-burial activates in lor rather than in play because of its wording.

sounds like a triggered ability based on game state. It may trigger when it hits LoR, but I think it still has to activate in order to be able to trigger. I would rule the ability is prevented from activating, therefore not allowing the triggered ability to take place.

question: if a card allowed you to take a LS from your deck and put it in your LoR, and you chose this card- would it still work?

Once a Lost Soul is rescued, it becomes a redeemed soul. Would that mean that the Anti-Burial LS ability triggers when it becomes a redeemed soul (since it triggers "while in a LoR"), and thus it isn't an "ability on a LS card" but an ability on a redeemed soul card? (Dang, that sounds like a T2 player talking.)

I disagree on the timing of the trigger. The card does not say "When this card is placed in a LoR..." which would imply that the trigger takes place before it goes to the LoB. It says "While this card is in a LoR..." which would put the trigger AFTER it has been placed in the LoR. Since the LoR is out of play, the effect of the FBTN LS doesn't work there.

I'm OK with whatever the PTB say, but I think this is a more accurate timing, and doesn't require either making an exception for the FBTN LS or the unsatisfying and weird situation in which a SA that doesn't take effect while the card is in play is somehow prevented from working when the card is out of play, where the ability should trigger.

The LS ability is negated. It doesnt work.

Sa'a defualt to play

Quote from: The Warrior on September 21, 2010, 10:51:22 PM

Quote from: RTSmaniac on September 21, 2010, 10:15:53 PM

The LS ability is negated. It doesnt work.

Sa'a defualt to play

Who gave you permission to use Roy's avatar? This is very confusing.

for a minute or 2 i had schaef's! 

Now he has Lambo's!!!! Ugh, I'm so confused.

i, for one, appreciate the variety.

You can have variety without stealing other people's avatars, though.

But it is better to fail in originality than succeed in imitation since imitation is suicide.

touche.

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