Author Topic: Fallen Warrior (Read 2843 times)

Minion of Jesus · « **on:** April 20, 2012, 08:29:33 AM »

Are you allowed to have 3 Fallen Warriors in your T1 deck? I say this because his ability might be an identifier. Then he would have no SA.

Korunks · « **Reply #1 on:** April 20, 2012, 08:40:22 AM »

His ability is not an identifier, one per 50 in a T1 deck. Sorry.

Minion of Jesus · « **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2012, 01:04:52 PM »

Just making sure, because I've been told his ability is a CBN.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2012, 01:32:57 PM »

CBN doesn't matter, it doesn't affect deck-building.

What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.

Korunks · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2012, 02:22:51 PM »

Quote from: Minion of Jesus on April 20, 2012, 01:04:52 PM

Just making sure, because I've been told his ability is a CBN.

His ability is not CBN, The addition from a previous turn is CBN. Just for clarification.

megamanlan · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2012, 03:30:18 PM »

It's not CBN. There is a rule that a trigger ability cannot be negated after the phase it was activated.

Nameless · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2012, 03:52:27 PM »

Quote from: Minion of Jesus on April 20, 2012, 08:29:33 AM

Are you allowed to have 3 Fallen Warriors in your T1 deck? I say this because his ability might be an identifier. Then he would have no SA.

Yes if your deck is 154 cards

Chris · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2012, 04:17:49 PM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 20, 2012, 01:32:57 PM

What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.

This is incorrect. Fallen Warrior is considered generic, despite the fact that the original passage may be referring to Goliath.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:40:11 PM »

Um... Does Isaiah mention Goliath?
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Fallen Warrior gains the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks. • Play As: Increase Fallen Warrior with the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks (stalemate or defeat). • Identifiers: Generic OT Male Human, Philistia, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: Isaiah 9:5 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Common)

Chris · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Asahel24601 on April 20, 2012, 05:40:11 PM

Um... Does Isaiah mention Goliath?
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Fallen Warrior gains the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks. • Play As: Increase Fallen Warrior with the cumulative abilities (*/*) of each Hero he successfully blocks (stalemate or defeat). • Identifiers: Generic OT Male Human, Philistia, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: Isaiah 9:5 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Common)

The passage sheds a little light on the issue, though I admit, I mostly say that because I've heard it before. That passage does reference things that happened in the past though.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:58:02 PM »

How does this referance Goliath? I'm confused
For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
-Isaiah 9:5

Chris · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2012, 06:02:37 PM »

Read more than just that verse. Read the actual chapter.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2012, 03:50:12 PM »

There is no evidence that the reference refers at all to Goliath. Philistines are mentioned briefly in the chapter, but that it not why Fallen Warrior is a Philistine. The reason he is a Philistine is because he is wearing headgear of a Philistine (due to the art being a picture of Goliath). However, he is not the same as Goliath.

Chris · « **Reply #13 on:** April 22, 2012, 04:02:48 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on April 22, 2012, 03:50:12 PM

There is no evidence that the reference refers at all to Goliath. Philistines are mentioned briefly in the chapter, but that it not why Fallen Warrior is a Philistine. The reason he is a Philistine is because he is wearing headgear of a Philistine (due to the art being a picture of Goliath). However, he is not the same as Goliath.

Ah, it was the artwork, not the reference. My mistake - I knew it was something about the card that made people argue it was Goliath.

Minion of Jesus · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2012, 04:13:13 PM »

One time I got him to somewhere around 30/30 with Philistine Chariot and Horses. Of course, he got killed once I ran out of battle winners... Why did they choose artwork of Goliath's head getting mashed when it's not Goliath. (I already knew he was not Goliath. I'm just curious).

Praeceps · « **Reply #15 on:** April 22, 2012, 07:29:33 PM »

It was a handy picture of a warrior getting stomped.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #16 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:13:52 PM »

Quite a few pictures in Redemption get reassigned. Like half the Kings from the Kings expansion have pictures of David, Saul or Solomon on them.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #17 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:40:38 PM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 20, 2012, 01:32:57 PM

What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.

Where did this come from? I can have 3x Gideon in my deck.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:47:33 PM »

gideon has no sa fallen warrior has a sa end of story

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #19 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:52:29 PM »

Quote from: christiangamer25 on April 22, 2012, 09:47:33 PM

gideon has no sa fallen warrior has a sa end of story

Which was my point. It has nothing to do with being unique.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #20 on:** April 23, 2012, 01:28:22 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 22, 2012, 09:40:38 PM

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 20, 2012, 01:32:57 PM
What affects deck building is the fact that he's a unique character. As such you can't have 3x.

Where did this come from? I can have 3x Gideon in my deck.

I should clarify I meant this as "character with same art same name and same SA."

Unique was a very poor choice of wording.

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