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Offline ChristianSoldier

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Re: Doubt
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 03:58:11 PM »
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I would read Doubt as becoming an Orange Brigade 0/12 Evil character that has no special ability, when a card "Becomes" something it no longer has the characteristics it had before (Doubt isn't a dominant nor does it have a special ability when its a character) However I don't think "Becomes" is a well defined special ability so I might be wrong.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2011, 04:10:45 PM »
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But it does work as intended (to the extent we're currently talking about). Doubt is both a place card and gets turned into a character. Precedent says that place overrides character-ness. A Panic Demon placed on a hero doesn't activate as a character if the hero it's on enters battle. I don't think it's too much of a logical leap to assume that Doubt does the same thing. It was placed somewhere, and that place sticks unless another ability activates to supersede that (such as is the case if you block with a Panic Demon and band to the one on the hero, which works).

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Re: Doubt
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2011, 05:20:25 PM »
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Quote from: lightningninja on October 05, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
When the ability activates, it has an "end of turn" ability that cannot be negated (because it is a dominant). No matter what happens after that, whether or not it is an ec, Cov. with death cannot negate the ability because when it activated it was a domiant, "end of turn" ability which means it can't be negated until the end of the turn.
But say I use Simon the Magic Man and in battle place a abom in my oppononents territory does that mean it's always cbn? No I can still negate it the next phase. Your logic above does not make sense with how anything else is played in the game.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2011, 06:40:58 PM »
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Actually, Abom would indeed be CBN. It entered play with a CBN ability, so as long as it remains in play it keeps the CBN status. CBN can neither be gained nor lost retroactively.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2011, 06:52:36 PM »
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Quote from: browarod on October 05, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
Actually, Abom would indeed be CBN. It entered play with a CBN ability, so as long as it remains in play it keeps the CBN status. CBN can neither be gained nor lost retroactively.
What???? This is new to me.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2011, 07:10:32 PM »
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Quote from: browarod on October 05, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
Actually, Abom would indeed be CBN. It entered play with a CBN ability, so as long as it remains in play it keeps the CBN status. CBN can neither be gained nor lost retroactively.

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This is correct.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2011, 10:32:47 PM »
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I thought Simon the Magician was a Samaritan and not Greek.  ???
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2011, 10:38:48 PM »
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I think Simon was just the first CBN can-play-black character that Isildur thought of.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2011, 11:20:16 AM »
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Quote from: TheHobbit13 on October 05, 2011, 10:32:47 PM
I thought Simon the Magician was a Samaritan and not Greek.  ???

Hobbit is correct. If Simon played Abom, it would not do anything except hang out in battle until the end. However, the others are correct that if he was Greek, Abom could not be negated later. A better example is if Michael plays Wheel Within a Wheel in battle, and places it on an angel. It would not be able to be negated later on.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2011, 11:37:03 AM »
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One of the things that I love about Redemption is that it has great game-play mechanics.


And there's dominants...the Dopey of the card types.


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Re: Doubt
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2011, 02:50:19 AM »
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this is wrong because if your right jordan your saying micahel can set up a coth with wheel that doesn't negate itself and is protected and under rules michaels cbn should stop after michaels battle this is potentially broken in an undonnable coth please fix.
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Re: Doubt
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2011, 10:14:34 AM »
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Quote from: christiangamer25 on December 13, 2011, 02:50:19 AM
this is wrong because if your right jordan your saying micahel can set up a coth with wheel that doesn't negate itself and is protected and under rules michaels cbn should stop after michaels battle this is potentially broken in an undonnable coth please fix.
Guess you'll have to depend on an actual battle, instead of dominants.
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