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Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Gold • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Convert any O.T. human Hero to an Evil Character for remainder of battle. Cannot be negated unless David's Harp is activated.

• Play As: Convert any O.T. human Hero to a gold brigade Evil Character for remainder of battle. Return converted Hero to territory. Cannot be negated unless David’s Harp is activated. • Identifiers: OT, Connected with David, Connected with Demons • Verse: I Samuel 16:15 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Rare)

since were on topic here, a question or two:

1. Why does the enhancment convert to evil gold?

2. Why does it push the character back to territory? I thought you could holy grail a character that was targeted with this card? I thought two evil characters could fight each other?

For number 1, recently (or perhaps in the future) the rule on Converts was changed to make unspecified converts convert to their own color. Previously, you had the choice of Brigade.

There wouldn't be much of a point, since Holy Grail's play as says you have to convert someone in territory.

oh that why i'm confused, because it does push you to territory where you become a legal target for Grail. ok, so timing issues ok here as well? Because Evil Spirit states until end of battle, and the battle doesnt resolve until both player agree due to removal by special ability, and this gives the player initiative to covert with Grail?

oh that why i'm confused, because it does push you to territory where you become a legal target for Grail. ok, so timing issues ok here as well? Because Evil Spirit states until end of battle, and the battle doesnt resolve until both player agree due to removal by special ability, and this gives the player initiative to covert with Grail?

I can't be completely certain, but I believe so. It'd be an interesting way to change the brigade color of one of your opponent's heroes though.

Quote from: RTSmaniac on March 12, 2010, 11:30:16 AM

oh that why i'm confused, because it does push you to territory where you become a legal target for Grail. ok, so timing issues ok here as well? Because Evil Spirit states until end of battle, and the battle doesnt resolve until both player agree due to removal by special ability, and this gives the player initiative to covert with Grail?

I can't be completely certain, but I believe so. It'd be an interesting way to change the brigade color of one of your opponent's heroes though.

I've always disagreed with this because for years the REG has explicity stated characters convert back to their original brigade.  Apparently though this is one of those "status quo" things because Bryon and your brother both admitted changing a hero's brigade by double conversion.  Maybe the new REG will reaffirm the existing rule.   

Exactly.  For the umpteenth time, here's the current REG wording:

Instant Abilities > Convert
How to Use
Evil Characters may only be converted to Hero brigade colors (i.e., blue, green, purple, red, silver, teal, white, and gold).  The only exception is Saul/Paul (as Saul), whose natural brigade color is multicolor when a Hero.  When no color is specified on a conversion enhancement card, the character converts to the same brigade color as the conversion enhancement card.  The converted character remains under the control of its owner.  The character reverts to its original state only if the card is returned to the draw pile, placed in the discard pile, or converted back.  The character remains converted even if set aside, captured, or rescued.  Rules for duplicate characters still apply.