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Haman's Plot
« on: July 07, 2013, 05:53:09 PM »
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Is Haman's Plot a do X to gain Y effect?

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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 05:58:51 PM »
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It is more of a Do X. Do Y. type of thing.
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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 06:09:11 PM »
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It just seems like archaic wording.
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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 06:13:31 PM »
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The use of Haman's Gallows would be dramatically different if Haman's Plot were a cause/effect ability. Rather than just saving the owner a Plot, it would completely nullify all effects of the card.

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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 06:16:46 PM »
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You have to discard three characters if there are elligible targets. If you discard any character you have to rip the card.

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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 06:18:36 PM »
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It is actually very much like a cost benefit ability (although a little different) but it can be thought of as:

An optional cost: discarding 3 characters
And the non optional benefit: ripping it in half.

However this is not technically a cost benefit because it still gets ripped in half even if less than three characters are discarded or if they get insteaded or whatever. It is really an optional ability (discarding 3 characters) and a linked conditional ability that is dependent on your choice in the first part that is not optional (ripping it in half).
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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013, 06:40:31 PM »
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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013, 06:52:43 PM »
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http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/haman's-plot-clarification-needed/
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Re: Haman's Plot
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013, 07:32:22 PM »
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yea I guess that sums it up, man what a read...
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