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TheHobbit13

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Ehud vs Fwives
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:59:05 PM »
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I Ra auto, d2, and get Gideon. My opponent blocks with Foreign Wives, forcing the battle into a stalemate. Its my initiative so I play Deb's directive to band in Ehud. What happens when ehud chooses the blocker with a protected FWives in battle?  Can Ehud add targeted evil character to battle from opponents territory OR does Ehud not get to target at all because he cannot target a protected Fwives for withdraw? In other words  is the withdraw part of CTB a prerequisite for adding targeted evil character to battle; is CTB withdraw TO add or is it withdraw AND add?

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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2016, 03:28:27 PM »
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Quote from: REG 3.0.0 > Choose Opponent > How to Play
A choose opponent​ ability used after a blocker is presented withdraws​all characters your opponent controls to their owners’ territories and presents​the selected character. If any character in battle cannot be withdrawn​ by the choose opponent ability, then no character can be presented​via that ability.

FW is protected, so nothing happens from Ehud's ability.

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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2016, 03:46:20 PM »
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Ok, this came up at the Type 2 only and there was not a consensus among Elders; it was ruled the other way.

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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2016, 04:10:27 PM »
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Ok, this came up at the Type 2 only and there was not a consensus among Elders; it was ruled the other way.

you don't say!!  :o

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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2016, 04:44:01 PM »
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Ok, this came up at the Type 2 only and there was not a consensus among Elders; it was ruled the other way.

I'd say it's not unheard of for judges (even Elder Judges) to rule something incorrectly at a tournament.  But it is in the REG (and I think that's been there since before the rewrite), so what I gave earlier is the correct ruling for this situation, should it arise again.

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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2016, 05:42:39 PM »
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As one of the players in that game (or at least in one of the games where it came up) I agree with Redoubter (though, to be clear, I was also the one who had Foreign Wives in battle). Fortunately, it did not end up affecting the outcome of the game (well, maybe slightly, but not significantly). I was playing another Elder, who believed differently, and the host ruled in his favor. I had no issue with how it was handled.
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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2016, 06:03:29 PM »
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I'd say it's not unheard of for judges (even Elder Judges) to rule something incorrectly at a tournament. 

Come to my tournaments - I mess up rulings all the time.  ;D
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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2016, 06:54:00 PM »
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Who was the other player? I don't remember that being me but I can't think of who else it would have been...
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Re: Ehud vs Fwives
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2016, 07:11:07 PM »
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It was Gabe, but honestly it could have gone either way that's why I asked.

 


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