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If you go for a battle challenge then you opt to not rescue a soul. Even if I'm wrong on that point, Great Mourning would not let you change the battle from a BC to a RA.

Also, I am almost 99.6% sure that Enters battle and Begins battle are two different things. I know this because I've abused Provisions + Hidden Treasures to CTB and then play cards. I've had that ruled to be legal, so I'm pretty sure that "begins the battle" is the last thing to activate, while anything on the hero activates the instant he enters battle.

But how is a battle allowed to turn into a RA when Great Mourning clearly states otherwise?

Regardless, thats an argument for another thread.  

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I know for an absolute fact that "begins battle" is the last thing to activate. Schaef said in another thread that Entering battle and activating abilities happen at the exact same instant.

I propose you this question then. Could I "begin a battle" with a lone green prophet, who just happens to have a banding ability. According to you, the instant he enters battle, I can use HT, and then band.

They decided that Begins Battle comes last so you can't abuse banding with cards like HT.

Not at all. I see Entering Battle as physically walking into battle, and Beginning Battle as having taken the first shot.

Welcome to Redemption.

I brushed over the main post in this thread and I have a question. What is the danger of this? I know there has to be something because it is just to obvious.

1. Push hero in battle and declare intent
2. Activate hero sa simultaneously
3. Activate, placed enhancements, gained abilities,
4. Activate weapons on hero.
5. Lather rinse repeat and hope it's legal.

Then you check other triggers.

There has to be a major problem, but this setup calms my brain atm.

Welcome to Redemption.

And we wonder why people lose interest  

I brushed over the main post in this thread and I have a question. What is the danger of this? I know there has to be something because it is just to obvious.

1. Push hero in battle and declare intent
2. Activate hero sa simultaneously
3. Activate, placed enhancements, gained abilities,
4. Activate weapons on hero.
5. Lather rinse repeat and hope it's legal.

There has to be a major problem, but this setup calms my brain atm.

I'd put weapons first, but the only situation where order might matter is if say, you placed a search enhancement, and the hero had 2kh converted on him, allowing him to play it.

Now that I think about it, there is absolutely NOTHING stating if placed enhs come before or after WC enhs. We reeeeallly need some rules written down for these cards.

That's all most of us are looking for. Ever since the inception of placed enhancements, it's been foggy, but the lack of necessary clarification has made teh point pretty moot. Now that there's cool stuff to do, we need to iron this out.

Yeah, definately try to talk with the other Powers that Be, especially Rob, and see if you guys can all come to a conclusion for the following question:

At which point in the order of abilities for a single card does a placed enhancement activate?

As I have said before, my gut tells me that it comes just after WC enhancements, but I have nothing to prove it.

As said, I know that one has been ruled before. I just don't know if those threads exist anymore.

Either that or I'm just right. Cuz im cool like that. 

I'll settle this:

You're both wrong. 

Well, thats exactly what we're debating here - Does that placed enhancement activate before or after Ehud. (In an Ideal world, and how it will be ruled eventually is before) However I'm (and other people) still aren't convinced that it doesn't happen til after.