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Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« on: August 18, 2010, 11:53:28 AM »
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Herod's Temple: If your N.T. human is discarded by a special ability used by an opponent, you may discard a card of matching brigade from hand and the top X cards of your deck instead. Put Lost Souls in play instead.

Could I discard a gold Site and/or a gold hero/enhancement in place of a gold EC?

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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 11:56:27 AM »
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i think sites are not considered for color purposes with cards like this. Ill see what i can find.

Demonic Blockade (RA)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Orange/Brown • Ability: 0 / 6 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate all special abilities on Heroes and Sites in battle. Opponent's unoccupied Sites have no brigade color. • Identifiers: OT, Connected with Demons • Verse: Daniel 10:13 • Availability: Rock of Ages booster packs (None)

...suggest that sites do have color.

Emperor Vitellius (RA)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gray • Ability: 10 / 1 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: You may draw X cards. Cannot be negated by a good card. • Identifiers: Male Human, Emperor (Rome), Royalty, Fought Earthly Battle, X = number of good brigades opponent has in play. • Verse: Josephus (NT) • Availability: Rock of Ages booster packs (None)

would this draw ability work with sites also?

« Last Edit: August 18, 2010, 12:05:22 PM by RTSmaniac »
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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 12:01:07 PM »
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No.  Good gold brigade and evil gold brigade do not match.

You can only play enhancements of matching brigade on your character.  If you couldn't play the enhancement on the character, or have access to the site with your character, then you can't discard it as a card of matching brigade.

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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 12:09:34 PM »
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Definitely not for evil Gold. Evil Gold and Good Gold are distinctly different brigades.

However, I'm not sure about discarding a Site to save a Hero. I know Site brigades are "neutral brigades" so they don't count toward the number of good brigades in a territory. I would say yes, however, based on this REG quote:

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To rescue a Lost Soul in a site, a Hero must have access to the site. If a Hero does not have access to a Lost Soul, then the battle is a battle challenge. A Hero has access to a site if:

1.  the Hero’s icon box contains a matching brigade color in the icon box of the site, or


Since Heroes can have matching brigade colors with Sites, I would say you could discard a "matching" Site to save your Hero. This could also be another nice way to use unneeded access sites.
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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 12:12:21 PM »
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So Dragon Raid woudl satisfy the discard of any hero?

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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 12:29:52 PM »
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So Dragon Raid woudl satisfy the discard of any hero?

Based on that REG quote, I say yes.
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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 12:39:09 PM »
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I am confused, if Good Good and Evil Gold are not compatible then why can I search for an evil gold enhancement with battle prayer?

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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 01:07:17 PM »
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Because the WA version just says Gold. Both Good Gold and Evil Gold are Gold, but they are not the same brigade.
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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 01:07:49 PM »
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Because both good gold and evil gold are called "gold". Battle Prayer doesn't say to "search for an enhancement matching the Hero's brigade", it says to search for a "gold enhancement".
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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 01:25:05 PM »
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Hey,

I agree with Bryon.  Just like Evil Gold is not the same brigade as Good Gold, Neutral Gold (on a gold site) is not the same brigade as Good Gold.

Prof A, that REG quote is intriguing, but also very old :)  and if I remember correctly the place you pulled it from in the REG that section is a bit odd in general.  I wouldn't feel comfortable making this ruling based on that single sentence of the REG. (Although I'm glad you brought it up.)

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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 01:45:17 PM »
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All I know is that Access to sites is based on "matching brigade" and Herod's Temple says "matching brigade". And even if that part of the new REG is old, I'm not sure how it could be worded differently in the future to avoid this apparent confusion.
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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 01:52:15 PM »
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Hey,

I'm not sure how it could be worded differently in the future to avoid this apparent confusion.

I do wonder about that myself.  But I'm sure we can come up with something.

Tschow,

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Re: Matching Brigade Question (Herod's Temple)
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2010, 02:22:59 PM »
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Or you could always just let it work as I described... ::)
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