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Redirect and SA's
« on: August 24, 2009, 06:04:44 PM »
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This may be a dumb question, but what happens to the SA of an enhancement that is redirected?

According to the REG:
Redirect is a special ability that affects the opposing card. The wording on the card being redirected does not change. Rather a card regardless of brigade color is played as if the card were moved from the opponent’s character to the character that activated the redirect special ability.

Does that mean I still get the SA effect if I played the enhancement, or does my opponent get the SA after redirecting it, or does it just fizzle and do nothing?
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 06:12:56 PM »
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Basically what changes is you can decide how the enhancement is used. Like, if someone was fighting you with a sword, they would probably want to slash the sword at you, right? But if you stole the sword, you could slash it at them. (I thought this was a valid analogy, but maybe not.)
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 06:15:06 PM »
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Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 24, 2009, 06:12:56 PM
Basically what changes is you can decide how the enhancement is used. Like, if someone was fighting you with a sword, they would probably want to slash the sword at you, right? But if you stole the Tank, you could Have Revenge. (I thought this was a valid analogy, but maybe not.)
Fixed :maul:
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 06:17:27 PM »
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Alright, "fixing" posts to say something completely different is not funny. It never was. Everyone does it at some time or other, but the sooner you stop the better.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 06:18:57 PM »
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Treat redirect as this...when you redirect an enhancement. Take that enhancement and put in on your EC and then carry out the special ability however you want or however the card says. If the special ability is "discard one EC in battle", assuming your EC did the redirect then that is too bad for you...the EC is still discarded, the only thing that changed is you discarded it not your opponent.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 06:20:04 PM »
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Quote from: The Warrior on August 24, 2009, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 24, 2009, 06:12:56 PM
Basically what changes is you can decide how the enhancement is used. Like, if someone was fighting you with a sword, they would probably want to slash the sword at you, right? But if you stole the Tank, you could Have Revenge. (I thought this was a valid analogy, but maybe not.)
Fixed :maul:

Sometimes I wish I was a global moderator...
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 06:22:42 PM »
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Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 24, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
Treat redirect as this...when you redirect an enhancement. Take that enhancement and put in on your EC and then carry out the special ability however you want or however the card says. If the special ability is "discard one EC in battle", assuming your EC did the redirect then that is too bad for you...the EC is still discarded, the only thing that changed is you discarded it not your opponent.
So, the redirecting player gets the numbers, and also gets to pick the target if the card targets?
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 06:26:12 PM »
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yes...you play it as if you played the card that was redirected. So you get numbers and you get to carry out the special ability however you like.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 06:33:33 PM »
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Yep, I still wish it was where you redirected it to the opposite allignment. So like, if you redirected AoC, it'd kill all heroes in play. XD
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 06:34:14 PM »
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Quote from: browarod on August 24, 2009, 06:22:42 PM
Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 24, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
Treat redirect as this...when you redirect an enhancement. Take that enhancement and put in on your EC and then carry out the special ability however you want or however the card says. If the special ability is "discard one EC in battle", assuming your EC did the redirect then that is too bad for you...the EC is still discarded, the only thing that changed is you discarded it not your opponent.
So, the redirecting player gets the numbers, and also gets to pick the target if the card targets?
I think it depends on whether the redirecting card affects an entire card (Denying Blame), or just the SA (Treachery of Jezebel).

Side Note: Why aren't there more redirecting cards? I love that effect, but only one good brigade and two evil have them.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 06:38:51 PM »
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I think they all say redirect the ability, which is numbers and SA.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 06:39:45 PM »
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You should check out the links on my post.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 06:42:43 PM »
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ok they both redirect the entire ability still...one says the effect which is numbers+SA and the other says the last enhancement which is the whole enhancement (numbers+SA).
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 06:45:17 PM »
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Quote from: BubbleBoy link=topic=17553.msg276759#msg276759
Treachery of Jezebel
That's another card I'm confused about. It says redirect to a hero of your choice, but if the redirected card says "capture a human evil character" a hero wouldn't be an appropriate target.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 06:56:14 PM »
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Strange, Treachery has no play as like the rest of the interrupts do?
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2009, 06:58:09 PM »
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Quote from: browarod on August 24, 2009, 06:45:17 PM
Quote from: BubbleBoy link=topic=17553.msg276759#msg276759
Treachery of Jezebel
That's another card I'm confused about. It says redirect to a hero of your choice, but if the redirected card says "capture a human evil character" a hero wouldn't be an appropriate target.

then nothing happens...you get the numbers.
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Re: Redirect and SA's
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2009, 07:13:25 PM »
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Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 24, 2009, 06:58:09 PM
then nothing happens...you get the numbers.
Ah, I see. That would make sense. :P
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