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Destruction of Nehushtan (Pa)

Type: Grim Reaper • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Discard one active Artifact in play. Artifact's ability is negated. • Play As: Discard one Artifact to negate its special ability. • Identifiers: False Religious Practice • Verse: II Kings 18:4 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Ultra Rare)

The first part of the ability is to discard an Artifact (can't, LotS is protected), then you negate the discarded Artifact (you didn't discard one so there's nothing to negate).

This is the perfect opportunity to use a classic phrase: I get it, but I don't. I understand what you guys are saying it just seems wrong the a card working as it's supposed to is so important in the explanation of Michael's CBN but doesn't say that ability, but not in this case.

This is the perfect opportunity to use a classic phrase: I get it, but I don't. I understand what you guys are saying it just seems wrong the a card working as it's supposed to is so important in the explanation of Michael's CBN but doesn't say that ability, but not in this case.

This is more straightforward than Mike.  Most cards nowadays say "negate and discard," but the old wording on DoN actually worked this time, since the discard happens before the negate.

I'd bring up Split Altar but then somebod- *is shot*

Wow.  I seem to be -1ing your posts a lot lately.

RDT, add to FAQ, ASAP, s'il vous plait. 

I wasn't aware [Redacted] could travel in time.

I wasn't aware [Redacted] could travel in time.

Psh.  That's the least of his/her powers.

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 30, 2012, 12:31:52 PM

This is more straightforward than Mike.  Most cards nowadays say "negate and discard," but the old wording on DoN actually worked this time, since the discard happens before the negate.

Right, but Michael does not say he can't be negated. The reasoning for him being CBN was that otherwise he would not work as intended. Even though it does not say anything about him being CBN, it was just to make his ability work the way he was supposed to. Regardless of word order it's pretty obvious that DoN was intended to negate and discard an artifact. But it doesn't.

Some cards simply don't work how they're supposed to. I welcome the -1's when I say that Split Altar is an example of that, whereas there's no problem with adding things like ANB is removed from the game to keep it from being broken. It's frustrating and unfair, but that's how it works.

I deserved a -1 on that post, though I wonder if the other person to -1 it was joking or not.

I - 1 every post that mentions Split Altar. Nothing personal. 

I'm lost, what happened with The Card That Must Not Be Named?

All cards default targeting to in play, unless another target is mentioned (see MLaMG).  Therefore, said card cannot target face-down artifacts (as it was intentioned to do).

Unfortunately, Rob Anderson refused to fix my [cardname] with a Sharpie at Nats.

whereas there's no problem with adding things like ANB is removed from the game to keep it from being broken. It's frustrating and unfair, but that's how it works.

It's frustrating and unfair that everyone keeps stating that ANB broke the game!   

Agur & Co. + recursion + MN players broke the game.  Get it right, thank you very much.

Wasn't this why Errata was invented?

Ask any player but an Elder or Rob and you'd get a positive response.

Quote from: STAMP on January 30, 2012, 01:22:23 PM

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on January 30, 2012, 12:54:30 PM

whereas there's no problem with adding things like ANB is removed from the game to keep it from being broken. It's frustrating and unfair, but that's how it works.

It's frustrating and unfair that everyone keeps stating that ANB broke the game!   

Agur & Co. + recursion + MN players broke the game.  Get it right, thank you very much.

I think they should have just banned the card, rather than add abilities to it that are nowhere to be found on the card itself.

Then start a list of every card that "Agur & Co. + recursion + MN players" breaks.