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Doubt has some.

Ok, just checked.  Doubt's the only one, and all the others say "none."  (Doubt's generic for some reason...).  Does this mean that there could be identifiers for the rest?

Doubt's ID is for when it is a character.

This changes everything I ever knew about identifiers....

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 17, 2011, 10:02:53 PM

Doubt's ID is for when it is a character.

This changes everything I ever knew about identifiers....

I do not believe Olijar is correct on this.  Before it becomes a character, Doubt is genderless and generic and most definitely not a human nor a demon.  (If you disagree replace the phrase "Before is becomes a character, Doubt" in the previous sentence with the word "Buckler."  There is nothing in the newly revised statement that does not make sense--albeit it does seem a bit strange.)

Apparently that is also the case with Deafening Spirit.

Huh?  The identifiers on Deafening Spirit are NT and Connected with Demons.  Both of these make perfect sense for an enhancements as well as a character.

I think he meant a *real* Dominant.   

I'm guessing you haven't used it multiple times in one game... 

They don't currently, because there is no reason to have any.

Quote from: browarod on September 19, 2011, 11:04:39 PM

It confuses me, though, based on the rule (that I thought existed) that identifiers are always active.

I suppose a more accurate way to state that rule would be that identifiers on characters are always active.  Therefore, once Doubt or Deafening Spirit become characters then their identifiers become and stay active from that point on.

So Magnificat is only a Hymn when in play? That's inconsistent and makes enhancements having identifiers almost completely useless (makes Musicians' Chambers useless).

is that "accurate way to state the rule" in the REG somewhere, or anywhere that people can check to refer? If not, then it should be if that's the official way it's being ruled, especially considering people are teaching it that "identifiers are always active" with no caveats.

Also, is it really that broken to allow all identifiers to always be active? You'd get to have some fun with Deafening Spirit and Doubt, I can't think of any other non-characters that have character identifiers. I really don't see why the simple rule can't be used in this case (especially with all the other threads about rule changes to "simplify" the game).