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Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« on: February 02, 2009, 02:35:14 PM »
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When Momentum Change says when Evil Character loses battle what does that exactly mean? Does it mean if an evil character was discarded or does it mean when a hero rescues a lost soul against that evil character? What does loses battle mean?!?!?!?
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Re: Momentum Change?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2009, 02:37:13 PM »
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It means when the ec loses, be it ignore, discard, capture etc, to answer what you are thinking, No it doesn't have to be VS a hero.
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Re: Momentum Change?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 02:38:18 PM »
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So Deluge of Rain would return to my hand after Momentum Change was played?
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Re: Momentum Change?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 02:41:52 PM »
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No.  Mutual Destruction by special ability is a win for the EC.
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Re: Momentum Change?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 02:42:55 PM »
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+1 but nice try.
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Re: Momentum Change?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 02:44:49 PM »
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That's what I thought. What about Death of Unrighteous would that work?
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Re: Momentum Change?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 02:54:28 PM »
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I would say yes, if you use self.
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 02:55:44 PM »
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So it does work? :prayer:
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 02:59:09 PM »
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Yes sir, So does failed objective. Thats why you cant negate them, they make the ec lose the battle.
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 03:01:30 PM »
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Thanks a million! ;)
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 03:04:06 PM »
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Np ;) Go break the game daniel!
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 03:19:53 PM »
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Hey,

In every battle either the attacker or the defender wins (and the other loses).

The attacker wins if any of the following are true:
 - the battle is in the "hero winning" state
 - the battle is in the "mutual destruction" state
 - there are no evil characters in battle and a hero is in battle

The defender wins if any of the following are true:
 - the battle is in the "evil character winning" state
 - the battle is in the "stalemate" state
 - there are no heroes in battle

Tschow,

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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 05:15:52 PM »
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Quote from: SirNobody on February 02, 2009, 03:19:53 PM
The defender wins if any of the following are true:
 - the battle is in the "evil character winning" state
 - the battle is in the "stalemate" state
 - there are no heroes in battle
Does this mean that Samson's Sacrifice isn't a battle-winner?
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 05:18:23 PM »
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Quote from: BubbleBoy on February 02, 2009, 05:15:52 PM
Quote from: SirNobody on February 02, 2009, 03:19:53 PM
The defender wins if any of the following are true:
 - the battle is in the "evil character winning" state
 - the battle is in the "stalemate" state
 - there are no heroes in battle
Does this mean that Samson's Sacrifice isn't a battle-winner?

Correct. Mutual destruction by special ability is a win for the evil forces.
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 05:22:53 PM »
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I thought I remembered reading in the rulebook that whoever played the mutual discard was the winner of the battle, because they sacrificed themselves for the cause?
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 05:31:31 PM »
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Thats mutual destruction by #s.
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Re: Does Death of Unrighteous work with Momentum Change?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 05:51:11 PM »
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Specifically, a hero gets a lost soul if the battle ends in a mutual destruction by the numbers.

A hero does not get a lost soul if they are removed from the battle due to a special ability, i.e. Joseph in Prison or Deluge of Rain.
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