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•      Special abilities on a converted character continue to exist. However, the special abilities of a converted character have no effect if they are not in the general nature of the converted character.  For example, a converted Evil Character becomes a Hero and can no longer band to an “Evil” Character.

•      Weapon-class enhancements stay with a converted character; the special ability continues to function if it does not conflict with the nature of the converted character (see Weapon-class Enhancements in the rulebook [p. 35].

•      If a Hero is converted to an Evil Character, it’s special ability does not work.  If that Evil Character is later converted back to a Hero, it’s special ability works again.

•      If an Evil Character is converted to a Hero, it’s special ability works as long as it cannot negatively effect a does not harm Heroes in play or set-aside.  The only exception is that the converted Evil Character may target a Hero for banding (e.g., if Potiphar and Potiphar's Wife were both converted to Heroes, Potiphar's special ability to band to Potiphar's Wife can still work)(e.g., the special ability of Otho does not work as a Hero because it would be discarding himself, a Hero). Game rules are still operative (e.g., Heroes may not use evil enhancements or band to Evil Characters).

Quote from: STAMP on March 03, 2010, 04:08:57 PM

What if I convert an EC to green that has Sowing the Seed placed on it prior to it reaching */0 or less?

It does not activate.  Everything after the "place" ability on the placed enhancement explains what to do with the placed card.  It only activates if the ability that placed the card says it does.  StS also does not decrease the hero, since StS says EC decreases, not "hero decreases."  So, it just stays there doing nothing.

Quote from: STAMP on March 03, 2010, 04:08:57 PM

What if I use Gold Shield to change the brigade of a hero that has a placed enhancement of the same brigade on it?

Is it placed to give ongoing effect, or placed to activate later?  If it is placed to give an ongoing effect, then it stays and continues to give effect.  If it is placed to activate later (I prefer to call those "preloaded"), then that enhancement won't be able to give its effect unless there is a hero in battle that matches that hero's brigade.

Hey,

Quote from: STAMP on March 03, 2010, 04:08:57 PM

Where is this specified in the rulebook and/or REG?  I did a search and cannot find anything.  I actually have some other examples, too.

I think it's worth noting that you cannot or do not do something unless a rule or card allows or causes it.  Weapons convert with characters because there's a rule that says they do.  There is no rule that says placed cards convert with characters they are placed on, so they don't.  There's no rule that says a card placed on a character must continue to match the character's brigade so it doesn't have to.  There is a rule that an enhancement can only activate on a character of matching brigade, so that does have to happen.

Sometimes the absence of a rule can be as significant as the presence of a rule.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly