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I guess I just always assumed that only ongoing abilities lasted until the end of the phase. The idea that you can trigger the ability on something when it's not in play just seems really odd to me.
The thing is that triggers are still ongoing abilities, regardless of also being triggers (by definition).
Quote from: Eragon5 on April 23, 2015, 06:11:51 PMQuote from: Redoubter on April 23, 2015, 06:06:51 PMNote that both definitions there of triggered abilities indicate that they are ongoing abilities. I'm not sure if you are still saying that triggers are not ongoing. They have to be, otherwise you couldn't use them.In this case I would argue that I was right from the Potiphar's wife thread, since the ability was ongoing and not negated, and even though she is no longer in play her ability activates.Not that anybody is keeping track . . .
Quote from: Redoubter on April 23, 2015, 06:06:51 PMNote that both definitions there of triggered abilities indicate that they are ongoing abilities. I'm not sure if you are still saying that triggers are not ongoing. They have to be, otherwise you couldn't use them.In this case I would argue that I was right from the Potiphar's wife thread, since the ability was ongoing and not negated, and even though she is no longer in play her ability activates.
Note that both definitions there of triggered abilities indicate that they are ongoing abilities. I'm not sure if you are still saying that triggers are not ongoing. They have to be, otherwise you couldn't use them.
This indicates some ongoing abilities have triggers but not necessarily that all triggers are ongoing.
Gabe and I were discussing this at a recent play night. I believe the conclusion that we came to is that manually triggered (If x MAY y) cannot be carried out if the card with the ability is no longer in play. As both Golden Cherubim and Herod's Temple are manual triggers neither one would work after being discarded.
Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on April 23, 2015, 08:44:22 PMGabe and I were discussing this at a recent play night. I believe the conclusion that we came to is that manually triggered (If x MAY y) cannot be carried out if the card with the ability is no longer in play. As both Golden Cherubim and Herod's Temple are manual triggers neither one would work after being discarded.If this is true then a discard ability becomes a functional negate ability in certain situations. Right?