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Title: Diotrephes
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 24, 2010, 02:48:02 AM
III John 1:9-11. Clearly a Heretic. Make it official please.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: JDS on August 24, 2010, 08:22:16 AM
Already posted this in the Heretics thread.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 24, 2010, 12:45:10 PM
Where it was promptly ignored.

*EDIT* And seems to be continuing to be Ignored. Dude, PTB, come on. He's clearly a Heretic in the Bible, all it takes is for someone official to say "yep," and add him to the list. There's no reason for this to take more than a day to be resolved.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 24, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
Where it was promptly ignored.

*EDIT* And seems to be continuing to be Ignored. Dude, PTB, come on. He's clearly a Heretic in the Bible, all it takes is for someone official to say "yep," and add him to the list. There's no reason for this to take more than a day to be resolved.

You forget half of us are lazy out the wazoo.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 24, 2010, 09:02:33 PM
You forget half of us are lazy out the wazoo.
That's a pretty bad place to be lazy.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: SirNobody on August 24, 2010, 10:18:14 PM
Hey,

*EDIT* And seems to be continuing to be Ignored. Dude, PTB, come on. He's clearly a Heretic in the Bible, all it takes is for someone official to say "yep," and add him to the list. There's no reason for this to take more than a day to be resolved.

The Powers that Be are aware of this thread.  Some of the powers that be don't feel that his Heretic-ness is as clear as you think it is.  Would you prefer the Powers that be spend their time deciding if we're going to call him a heretic or would you rather we spend our time letting you know that we're discussing it?

Most of the Powers that Be have very busy lives.  Many of us do not check the message board every day.  So expecting a definitive same day or next day response from the powers that be is not realistic.  As a game that is run largely by volunteers that's something you're going to have to learn to live with.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 24, 2010, 11:01:02 PM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 25, 2010, 09:17:08 AM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.

you're.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on August 25, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.
Then word you should have used in place of your is you're.
One should use full sentences.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 25, 2010, 09:26:11 AM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.
Then word you should have used in place of your is you're.
One should use full sentences.

One should not add consonants to the end of "the".
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 25, 2010, 10:15:28 AM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.
Then word you should have used in place of your is you're.
One should use full sentences.

One should not add consonants to the end of "the."

One should not put periods outside of quotation marks.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 25, 2010, 11:02:33 AM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.
Then word you should have used in place of your is you're.
One should use full sentences.

One should not add consonants to the end of "the."

One should not put periods outside of quotation marks.

Periods belong outside of quotations unless it is the end of a sentence that someone is speaking. So, one should learn the English language.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Professoralstad on August 25, 2010, 11:11:13 AM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.
Then word you should have used in place of your is you're.
One should use full sentences.

One should not add consonants to the end of "the."

One should not put periods outside of quotation marks.

Periods belong outside of quotations unless it is the end of a sentence that someone is speaking. So, one should learn the English language.

One should learn the difference between language and punctuation.  ;)

Yes, this train has officially been derailed.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 25, 2010, 11:19:22 AM
To answer your question, yes, taking three seconds to acknowledge the issue and tell us your discussing it would make me happy.
Then word you should have used in place of your is you're.
One should use full sentences.

One should not add consonants to the end of "the."

One should not put periods outside of quotation marks.

Periods belong outside of quotations unless it is the end of a sentence that someone is speaking. So, one should learn the English language.

One should learn the difference between language and punctuation.  ;)

Yes, this train has officially been derailed.

Punctuation is included in the general nomenclature of "English".

Also, Derail is one of my favorite maps on Modern Warfare 2.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Smokey on August 25, 2010, 11:20:34 AM
Punctuation is included in the general nomenclature of "Language".

Also, Derail is a terrible map on Modern Warfare 2.

Fixed.  :D
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 25, 2010, 12:43:50 PM
Actually, it is you who needs to learn English. Unless your British, you always put the punctuation inside the quotation marks.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master KChief on August 25, 2010, 12:44:26 PM
Punctuation is included in the general nomenclature of "Language".

Also, Derail is a terrible map on Modern Warfare 2.

Fixed.  :D

QFT. i absolutely hate derail.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on August 25, 2010, 01:00:07 PM
Actually, it is you who needs to learn English. Unless your British, you always put the punctuation inside the quotation marks.
Is this a cycle?
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 26, 2010, 09:22:23 AM
Actually, it is you who needs to learn English. Unless your British, you always put the punctuation inside the quotation marks.

The correct spelling that you should have used is: "you're".

And why the hate on Derail? Good sniping map.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 26, 2010, 09:48:55 AM
And Besides, why the hate on Derail? It is a good sniping map.

Your complete sentences require a subject and a verb. In addition, you should not start sentences with conjunctions.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Professoralstad on August 26, 2010, 10:06:01 AM
And Besides, why the does everyone hate on Derail? It is a good sniping map.

Your complete sentences require a subject and a verb. In addition, you should not start sentences with conjunctions.

The first sentence requires a subject and verb as well. I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 26, 2010, 10:49:41 AM
And Besides, why the hate on Derail? It is a good sniping map.

Your complete sentences require a subject and a verb. In addition, you should not start sentences with conjunctions.

Sentence 1
Verb: hate
Subject: Derail

Sentence 2
Verb: sniping
Subject: map
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: D-man on August 26, 2010, 11:15:14 AM
Sniping is an adjective in the second sentence. ;)
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: juhnkect on August 26, 2010, 11:31:16 AM
And Besides, why the hate on Derail? It is a good sniping map.

Your complete sentences require a subject and a verb. In addition, you should not start sentences with conjunctions.

Sentence 1
Verb: hate The verb would be an understood "is/are."
Subject: Derail  hate

Sentence 2
Verb: sniping that is a particle- the verb would be "is"
Subject: map It

Derail is the object of the preposition. Making it a noun, not a subject.

Map is the direct object.

Fixed.

Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: TheJaylor on August 26, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
I hate grammar!
pronoun: I,
verb: hate,
noun: grammar,
punctuation: exclamation point.
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: DDiceRC on August 26, 2010, 02:34:34 PM
i thimk these; thread is gone a bite! too further".
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: RTSmaniac on August 26, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
So we still waiting on this ruling? 6/6 crimson EC, male, E deck (heretic?)

Heretic
A heretic is a N.T. human evil character who publicly denied or misrepresented some teachings of the apostles and established doctrines of the Church, while still holding some teachings or doctrines to be true. Their object is to disturb the life of the church and those within it, shaking their confidence and spoiling the work of Christ. The gospels were written in great measure as a means to answer the words and teachings of the heretics in the early N.T. church.

Verse III John 1:9
King James Bible
I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

New Living Translation (©2007)
I wrote to the church about this, but Diotrephes, who loves to be the leader, refuses to have anything to do with us.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

1:9-12 Both the heart and mouth must be watched. The temper and spirit of Diotrephes was full of pride and ambition. It is bad not to do good ourselves; but it is worse to hinder those who would do good. Those cautions and counsels are most likely to be accepted, which are seasoned with love. Follow that which is good, for he that doeth good, as delighting therein, is born of God. Evil-workers vainly pretend or boast acquaintance with God. Let us not follow that which is proud, selfish, and of bad design, though the example may be given by persons of rank and power; but let us be followers of God, and walk in love, after the example of our Lord.

So does this classify him a heritic? Im not so sure because im not sure he was teaching things different from the scripture except maybe through his actions not his words. however through this commentary a heretic shows someone causing divisions in the church as well which this character was doing:

Wesley's Notes

3:10 An heretic (after a first and second admonition) reject - Avoid, leave to himself. This is the only place, in the whole scripture, where this word heretic occurs; and here it evidently means, a man that obstinately persists in contending about foolish questions, and thereby occasions strife and animosities, schisms and parties in the church. This, and this alone, is an heretic in the scripture sense; and his punishment likewise is here fixed. Shun, avoid him, leave him to himself. As for the Popish sense, A man that errs in fundamentals, although it crept, with many other things, early into the church, yet it has no shadow of foundation either in the Old or New Testament.

Not as evil of a character as some of the below listed EC's, but maybe evil enough to slip in under this category?

The following Redemption® characters are considered heretics:

•      Creeping Deceiver (Di), False Teacher (Di), Philetus (Di), Simon the Magician (Ap), and The False Prophet (Pr)


Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 26, 2010, 06:10:54 PM
Derail is the object of the preposition. Making it a noun, not a subject.

Map is the direct object.

Fixed.

NO, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS DUMB!
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: RTSmaniac on August 26, 2010, 06:20:39 PM
nice post guys- bored much?
Title: Re: Diotrephes
Post by: Master_Chi on August 26, 2010, 06:40:43 PM
nice post guys- bored much?

Never.
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