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Re: Diotrephes
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2010, 02:34:34 PM »
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Re: Diotrephes
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2010, 03:52:51 PM »
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So we still waiting on this ruling? 6/6 crimson EC, male, E deck (heretic?)

Heretic
A heretic is a N.T. human evil character who publicly denied or misrepresented some teachings of the apostles and established doctrines of the Church, while still holding some teachings or doctrines to be true. Their object is to disturb the life of the church and those within it, shaking their confidence and spoiling the work of Christ. The gospels were written in great measure as a means to answer the words and teachings of the heretics in the early N.T. church.

Verse III John 1:9
King James Bible
I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

New Living Translation (©2007)
I wrote to the church about this, but Diotrephes, who loves to be the leader, refuses to have anything to do with us.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

1:9-12 Both the heart and mouth must be watched. The temper and spirit of Diotrephes was full of pride and ambition. It is bad not to do good ourselves; but it is worse to hinder those who would do good. Those cautions and counsels are most likely to be accepted, which are seasoned with love. Follow that which is good, for he that doeth good, as delighting therein, is born of God. Evil-workers vainly pretend or boast acquaintance with God. Let us not follow that which is proud, selfish, and of bad design, though the example may be given by persons of rank and power; but let us be followers of God, and walk in love, after the example of our Lord.

So does this classify him a heritic? Im not so sure because im not sure he was teaching things different from the scripture except maybe through his actions not his words. however through this commentary a heretic shows someone causing divisions in the church as well which this character was doing:

Wesley's Notes

3:10 An heretic (after a first and second admonition) reject - Avoid, leave to himself. This is the only place, in the whole scripture, where this word heretic occurs; and here it evidently means, a man that obstinately persists in contending about foolish questions, and thereby occasions strife and animosities, schisms and parties in the church. This, and this alone, is an heretic in the scripture sense; and his punishment likewise is here fixed. Shun, avoid him, leave him to himself. As for the Popish sense, A man that errs in fundamentals, although it crept, with many other things, early into the church, yet it has no shadow of foundation either in the Old or New Testament.

Not as evil of a character as some of the below listed EC's, but maybe evil enough to slip in under this category?

The following Redemption® characters are considered heretics:

•      Creeping Deceiver (Di), False Teacher (Di), Philetus (Di), Simon the Magician (Ap), and The False Prophet (Pr)


« Last Edit: August 26, 2010, 04:23:15 PM by RTSmaniac »
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Re: Diotrephes
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2010, 06:10:54 PM »
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Derail is the object of the preposition. Making it a noun, not a subject.

Map is the direct object.

Fixed.

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Re: Diotrephes
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2010, 06:20:39 PM »
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nice post guys- bored much?
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Re: Diotrephes
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2010, 06:40:43 PM »
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