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Title: Deafening Spirit
Post by: Josh on July 31, 2010, 12:32:50 PM
My opponent attacks with a hero, I defend with Wandering Spirit TxP.  Hero has inish, plays battle winner, I play Deafening Spirit to negate, then I play Grapes on Deafening Spirit.  Does Deafening Spirit get placed on the bottom of my deck before I shuffle Wandering Spirit into my deck?

Wandering Spirit - "Reveal the bottom card of deck. If it is a demon, put it in your territory. May band to a generic demon. If you demon is discarded, place it beneath deck instead. Cannot be negated."

Deafening Spirit - "Negate and discard the last good Enhancement played this battle.  You may treat this card as an Evil Character until the end of this battle."
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: fyero on July 31, 2010, 12:44:55 PM
i would say yes bcuz it is considered a demon until the end of battle
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on July 31, 2010, 12:57:13 PM
I'm not sure if Deafening Spirit becomes a demon,

Deafening Spirit
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Orange • Ability: 1 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate and discard the last good Enhancement played this battle. You may treat this card as an Evil Character until the end of this battle. • Identifiers: NT, Connected with Demons • Verse: Mark 9:25 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Common)

It says its connected with demons, but I don't see where it says it becomes a demon.
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: Townsend on July 31, 2010, 12:58:35 PM
It originally (on the card) says its a generic demon but they might have changed it to connected with demons
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: SirTimothy on July 31, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
It says as an identifier that it is generic/demon
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: Josh on July 31, 2010, 01:02:11 PM
I'm not sure if Deafening Spirit becomes a demon,

Deafening Spirit
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Orange • Ability: 1 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate and discard the last good Enhancement played this battle. You may treat this card as an Evil Character until the end of this battle. • Identifiers: NT, Connected with Demons • Verse: Mark 9:25 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Common)

It says its connected with demons, but I don't see where it says it becomes a demon.
Well it's title is Deafening Spirit...  If it becomes an actual evil character, it has to become characterized as "something", whether it be human, animal, demon, etc.  Based on the name, and the fact that it is Orange, I think it should be a demon.  But I understand if it is ruled otherwise.
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: Townsend on July 31, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
Check out this thread it has the answer...

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19939.msg311735#msg311735 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19939.msg311735#msg311735)
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: Josh on July 31, 2010, 01:08:52 PM
Check out this thread it has the answer...

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19939.msg311735#msg311735 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19939.msg311735#msg311735)
Nice find.  I guess this is a cool trick to recur Deafening Spirit.
Title: Re: Deafening Spirit
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on July 31, 2010, 01:22:34 PM
It says as an identifier that it is generic/demon

Whoops, forgot to check the image of the card as well.

Why is Generic/Demon not included in the REG description of the card? Kinda strange.
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