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Curses Neutral or Evil?
« on: August 24, 2012, 03:45:24 PM »
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are curses activated as an artifact evil or neutral?

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Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 03:46:52 PM »
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Curses are evil
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Re: Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 03:48:56 PM »
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I will debate that. I actually want a elder ruling on this with explanations.
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Re: Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 04:05:36 PM »
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I'm not an elder, but I am fairly sure that an Elder ruling would be something along the lines of:

Curses are always evil. The phrase in the REG about "disregarding the skull icon" is primarily a simple explanation on how its played in general, not how they are actually played (they still have brigade colors). But it is still always a curse (which are evil) when its in the artifact pile, because cards can target them as such.

It will probably be something like that.
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Re: Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 04:17:49 PM »
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I'm not an elder, but I am fairly sure that an Elder ruling would be something along the lines of:

Curses are always evil. The phrase in the REG about "disregarding the skull icon" is primarily a simple explanation on how its played in general, not how they are actually played (they still have brigade colors). But it is still always a curse (which are evil) when its in the artifact pile, because cards can target them as such.

It will probably be something like that.

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Re: Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 04:19:56 PM »
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Yet another example of REG "clarity" that causes confusion.
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Re: Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 07:59:59 PM »
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Here is an explanation of Curses, Covenants, and Dual-Alignment cards.

Curses are always treated as an evil card, and always treated as Curses.  No matter their location, Curses may be targeted as evil cards or Curses.
In hand, deck, or discard, where the card is not 'played' and 'resets' if already played, it may only be targeted as an evil card or Curse.
When played as an artifact, it may only be targeted as an evil card, a Curse, or an artifact.
When played as an enhancement, it may only be targeted as an evil card, a Curse, or an enhancement.

Covenants are always treated as a good card, and always treated as Covenants.  No matter their location, Covenants may be targeted as good cards or Covenants.
In hand, deck, or discard, where the card is not 'played' and 'resets' if already played, it may only be targeted as a good card or Covenant.
When played as an artifact, it may only be targeted as a good card, a Covenant, or an artifact.
When played as an enhancement, it may only be targeted as a good card, a Covenant, or an enhancement.

Dual-Alignment Enhancements in hand, deck, or discard, where the card is not 'played' and 'resets' if already played, may be targeted as a good or evil enhancement.
Once played, the DAE can only be targeted as the alignment it was played on.  A DAE played off of a good character can only be targeted as good, and a DAE played off of an evil character can only be targeted as evil.


If you still disagree with the Elder and everyone else, I was wondering with what rules you have a problem, and where the discrepancy lies?  Not coming at you, I just want to help with the understanding of these complex card types :)

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Re: Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 08:14:01 PM »
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I'd have to say my problem at this point is with the REG's defintions and not the elders.
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Re: Curses Neutral or Evil?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 08:26:02 PM »
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I'd have to say my problem at this point is with the REG's defintions and not the elders.

Well, if you could point that out?  I see the part about "disregard"ing one symbol or the other, but like many things in the REG, it has been clarified here on the boards.  Nowhere in the REG does it actually state that you can treat either card as a neutral card, and it has been clarified on the boards to the definition I have explained.  I understand the concern with an outdated REG, but that has been a concern for awhile, and hopefully resolved with the new set coming out.

 


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