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Title: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: DJWeb on December 14, 2013, 05:23:32 PM

Can Covenant Keepers search out Covenant with Death (Curse)?

Covenant Keepers: "You may search draw pile for a Covenant, or an Artifact with 'Covenant' in the title, and add it to hand"

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: Redoubter on December 14, 2013, 06:52:16 PM

I feel like this may have been ruled to the contrary before, but I'm not sure...

Unless it was overruled somewhere, by the current rules it could.  CwD is an artifact at face value, and has "Covenant" in the title.  It should be searchable.

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: DDiceRC on December 14, 2013, 06:58:14 PM

CwD is a curse at face value, not an artifact. It can become an artifact when played, but is not an artifact in the deck.

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: Redoubter on December 14, 2013, 07:28:25 PM

Quote from: DDiceRC on December 14, 2013, 06:58:14 PM

CwD is a curse at face value, not an artifact. It can become an artifact when played, but is not an artifact in the deck.

Curses are targetable as curses, enhancements, and/or artifacts in hand, deck, and discard..

Quote from: REG 2.0

Curse
A Curse is both an Enhancement and an Artifact, and can be targeted as either (in hand, deck, or discard pile) until it is played, held, activated, or placed in Artifact pile as one or the other. A Curse that is played or held as an Enhancement can no longer be targeted as an Artifact. A Curse that is activated or placed in the Artifact pile can no longer be targeted as an Enhancement. It can still be targeted as a Curse.

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: DDiceRC on December 14, 2013, 08:54:31 PM

Thank you for the correction. I was thinking of the reset rules.

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: Isildur on December 14, 2013, 11:16:30 PM

Quote from: Redoubter on December 14, 2013, 07:28:25 PM

Quote from: DDiceRC on December 14, 2013, 06:58:14 PM

CwD is a curse at face value, not an artifact. It can become an artifact when played, but is not an artifact in the deck.

Curses are targetable as curses, enhancements, and/or artifacts in hand, deck, and discard..

Quote from: REG 2.0

Curse
A Curse is both an Enhancement and an Artifact, and can be targeted as either (in hand, deck, or discard pile) until it is played, held, activated, or placed in Artifact pile as one or the other. A Curse that is played or held as an Enhancement can no longer be targeted as an Artifact. A Curse that is activated or placed in the Artifact pile can no longer be targeted as an Enhancement. It can still be targeted as a Curse.

Thats new.... I wonder who the mastermind behind that rule change was? :o

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: Redoubter on December 15, 2013, 12:15:35 AM

Quote from: Isildur on December 14, 2013, 11:16:30 PM

Thats new.... I wonder who the mastermind behind that rule change was? :o

I don't believe it is a new rule, actually.  I'm pretty sure that this has been the status quo for quite awhile now, at least as long as the latest REG, but I'm fairly sure that was the ruling longer.

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: YourMathTeacher on December 15, 2013, 10:50:42 AM

That has always been the rule as far as I am aware. I have never ruled it differently.

Title: Re: Covenant Keepers gone bad?
Post by: DJWeb on December 15, 2013, 04:17:58 PM

Thanks for the ruling.