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Title: Confusion of negates
Post by: lightningninja on February 15, 2009, 11:07:16 PM: So player A attackes with jepthah and used his ability. Player B blocks with complainers out of hand to negate jephtah. He brings in Jacob from an opponent's territory. It's jacob's initative, and he can't band cause his ability is negated. He plays Abe's servent to Ur. Now what happens?

A. He can now band to a silver guy and stays in battle.
B. Since complainers is negated, jephtah is brought back in with a battle by the numbers.
C. Any option I missed while making the first two. :)

I'm thinking A. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: Prof Underwood on February 15, 2009, 11:58:33 PM: I think (b) is the right answer.
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: The Schaef on February 16, 2009, 12:58:36 AM: Should be.
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: BubbleBoy on February 16, 2009, 08:05:51 AM: Would that be considered bringing him into battle a second time?...Arguments could really go both ways on this.
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: Captain Kirk on February 16, 2009, 09:22:49 AM: Quote from: BubbleBoy on February 16, 2009, 08:05:51 AM
Would that be considered bringing him into battle a second time?...Arguments could really go both ways on this.

No, as the negate on Abe's Servant makes it as if Jacob was never really in battle and Jepthah was there the whole time.

Kirk
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: Arch Angel on February 16, 2009, 07:17:36 PM: so would Abe's servant get discarded in this scenario, or return to hand?
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on February 16, 2009, 07:19:09 PM: Quote from: Captain Kirk on February 16, 2009, 09:22:49 AM
Quote from: BubbleBoy on February 16, 2009, 08:05:51 AM
Would that be considered bringing him into battle a second time?...Arguments could really go both ways on this.

No, as the negate on Abe's Servant makes it as if Jacob was never really in battle and Jepthah was there the whole time.

Kirk

To put it in a uber-simple example...

Negate = [Ctrl] + [Z]
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: SirNobody on February 16, 2009, 07:21:33 PM: Hey,

Quote from: Archangel withabunchofnumbersontheend on February 16, 2009, 07:17:36 PM
so would Abe's servant get discarded in this scenario, or return to hand?

It would be discarded.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on February 16, 2009, 07:22:13 PM: Here is another uber-simple example...

CBN = life
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on February 16, 2009, 07:23:39 PM: Err.... not quite. :P
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on February 16, 2009, 07:25:54 PM: Life can't be undone (negated).

I guess my joke wasn't clear enough :P
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on February 16, 2009, 07:28:39 PM: Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on February 16, 2009, 07:25:54 PM
Life can't be undone (negated).

I guess my joke wasn't clear enough :P
Its a wonderful life says otherwise.
Title: Re: Confusion of negates
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 16, 2009, 09:38:30 PM: Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on February 16, 2009, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on February 16, 2009, 07:25:54 PM
Life can't be undone (negated).

I guess my joke wasn't clear enough :P
Its a wonderful life says otherwise.
By the same token, The Family Man helps explain side battles.