Cactus Game Design Message Boards

Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Lawfuldog on November 06, 2010, 10:05:23 AM

Title: Clarifications
Post by: Lawfuldog on November 06, 2010, 10:05:23 AM
Special abilities won't be posted since I assume these questions have all been asked before.

1. Herod's Temple; if my N.T. character is being discarded in battle and I choose to use Herod's Temple's ability, does my character stay in battle?

2. a.) Saul/Paul is considered an evil card at face value, and thus multiples can be in a Type-2 deck, correct?

    b.) Is Saul and Paul of the card Saul/Paul considered different people for playing purposes? i.e. Can I have Paul out at the same time as Saul?

3. The Disciples Lost Soul (Luke 19:10, the one that negates other lost souls); does that take effect for continuous turns until it is taken out of play?
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 06, 2010, 10:24:24 AM
1. I don't know the new Herod's Temple ability

2a.) Correct
  b.) No, they are the same unique person. Saul cannot block Paul either.

3. I don't know the ability, but ongoing abilities on Lost Soul cards are typically active continuously.
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: Minister Polarius on November 06, 2010, 10:32:56 AM
1. Yes
2.a Actually, iirc, there's a bad ruling on this one and Saul is one per deck.
3. Yes, and for extra clarity, his SA does not stop working immediately when he is taken out of play, but at the start of the following phase.
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 06, 2010, 10:34:43 AM
2.a Actually, iirc, there's a bad ruling on this one and Saul is one per deck.

Oops! I did not know that. That would have passed my deck checks. Fortunately we hardly ever play Type 2.
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: Lawfuldog on November 06, 2010, 10:38:57 AM
Thanks, guys.

So I guess Herod's Temple isn't as useless as I thought it was...
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: The M on November 06, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
Yeah it may be one of the best cards in the game.

My list of best disciples cards:

Herod's Temple
King Manasseh
Thaddeus
Herod's Temple
Trumpet & Sword
Herod's Temple
Fishing Boat
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: Professoralstad on November 07, 2010, 09:57:13 PM
1. Yes. If an ability is insteaded, the game proceeds as if the ability never happened, only the ability that was carried out instead is considered to have happened for all purposes.

2a. Yes, S/P is evil for T2 deck building purposes, and you can have up to 5 of him in a T2 deck.

2b. You cannot control both two S/P cards, regardless of what name they go by.

3. Pol is correct. The ability lasts until the phase after it is taken out of play.
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 07, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
I was right about 2a? Woo-hoo!  ;D
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: Professoralstad on November 07, 2010, 10:24:28 PM
I was right about 2a? Woo-hoo!  ;D

Yep. The Guardian used to have a Heroless T2 deck with 5x S/P...it was actually not too bad...
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 07, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
I was right about 2a? Woo-hoo!  ;D

Yep. The Guardian used to have a Heroless T2 deck with 5x S/P...it was actually not too bad...

Heroless T2? How did he manage the balance of good and evil? Or is that a secret?
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: browarod on November 07, 2010, 10:32:49 PM
I was right about 2a? Woo-hoo!  ;D

Yep. The Guardian used to have a Heroless T2 deck with 5x S/P...it was actually not too bad...

Heroless T2? How did he manage the balance of good and evil? Or is that a secret?
I imagine most of the good cards were probably dominants and enhancements (to use on converted Paul).
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: TheJaylor on November 07, 2010, 10:51:02 PM
I was right about 2a? Woo-hoo!  ;D

Yep. The Guardian used to have a Heroless T2 deck with 5x S/P...it was actually not too bad...

Heroless T2? How did he manage the balance of good and evil? Or is that a secret?
when was this?  never remember playing that

i'm not really sure if you need more clarification but Prof A is right about everything according to me
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: The Guardian on November 07, 2010, 10:57:21 PM
Actually I only needed Saul/Paul x3. Eventually tho I realized the deck would be much stronger as Hero-lite as I was able to use Ahimaaz/I am Patience to give me another convert option than Holy Grail. Since I was using Zeal's with Paul anyway, I added Phinehas and Joshua to give me the added advantage of using Urim and Thummim.
Title: Re: Clarifications
Post by: RTSmaniac on November 09, 2010, 10:45:20 PM
so what would you suggest as a battle winner now for this deck? Do you feel discard is less powerful with new sites?
SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal