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Title: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on October 24, 2010, 06:52:14 PM
when you play a "holder may choose the EC opponent uses to block" GE, while your opponent is blocking with an EC that is immune to your GC.... can you make them retreat and block with someone else or is the "choose blocker" useless?
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Bryon on October 24, 2010, 06:57:35 PM
Choose the blocker has been kinda broken down into these abilities:

Return all blocking evil characters to owners' territories.  If none remain, add a blocker to the battle.

An evil character with an active immune ability can't be targeted by either part.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on October 24, 2010, 07:15:10 PM
ok, thanks!!
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 26, 2010, 12:17:53 AM
Sweet ...on that note...

If I use Second Seal (groan) to pull out five of my heroes, and one of them is Jael, can I send all my opponent's fifteen baddies back and select one [male, human] one to block?  If so, when does that happen?

Thx,
Ammian
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 26, 2010, 12:27:38 AM
Sweet ...on that note...

If I use Second Seal (groan) to pull out five of my heroes, and one of them is Jael, can I send all my opponent's fifteen baddies back and select one [male, human] one to block?  If so, when does that happen?

Thx,
Ammian
This makes me think of another question:
You play All Hope Lost followed by Siege. You play Dissuading Speech. Are all of their heroes paralyzed?
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 26, 2010, 12:30:24 AM
This makes me think of another question:
You play All Hope Lost followed by Siege. You play Dissuading Speech. Are all of their heroes paralyzed?

Or Darkness instead of Dissuading speech.  Either way, that's sick and awesome.

I'll still be needing an answer to the question, of course.

-Ammian
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 26, 2010, 12:40:06 AM
This makes me think of another question:
You play All Hope Lost followed by Siege. You play Dissuading Speech. Are all of their heroes paralyzed?

Or Darkness instead of Dissuading speech.  Either way, that's sick and awesome.

I'll still be needing an answer to the question, of course.

-Ammian
Darkness works, I know that for a fact. However, if you can pull it off, you can make Dissuading Speech unnegatable.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 26, 2010, 12:44:05 AM
Come to think of it, Dissuading Speech would fail, wouldn't it?  All of their characters technically go back to their territories first.  Thus, they are paralyzed and "cannot enter battle until healed."

I suppose that means Dissuading Speech is at least partly negated ...interesting.

Anyway, still waiting for that answer.

-Ammian
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 26, 2010, 12:50:39 AM
Come to think of it, Dissuading Speech would fail, wouldn't it?  All of their characters technically go back to their territories first.  Thus, they are paralyzed and "cannot enter battle until healed."

I suppose that means Dissuading Speech is at least partly negated ...interesting.

Anyway, still waiting for that answer.

-Ammian
I was actually referring to having less numbers than a hero that you choose.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 26, 2010, 02:20:26 PM
Ah ...but wouldn't you have initiative simply by playing Dissuading Speech, since all their heroes would be paralyzed?  I mean, numbers are irrelevant if no one carries them.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 26, 2010, 02:24:27 PM
Ah ...but wouldn't you have initiative simply by playing Dissuading Speech, since all their heroes would be paralyzed?  I mean, numbers are irrelevant if no one carries them.
Numbers are relevant.
Suppose you have Manasseh, and only Manasseh in play. Play Siege. All their heroes come in, you have initiative again, so you play All Hope Lost. You still have inish, so you play Dissuading Speech. So long as the hero you choose (preferrably your hero) has bigger numbers, they don't get initiative to negate it.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 26, 2010, 02:35:02 PM
You can use Dissuading Speech to choose your own hero?

(Eyes go wide)
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: D-man on October 26, 2010, 02:59:48 PM
Yes.  If you couldn't, Choose the Rescuer and Choose the Blocker wouldn't be much good.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Professoralstad on October 26, 2010, 03:12:04 PM
This makes me think of another question:
You play All Hope Lost followed by Siege. You play Dissuading Speech. Are all of their heroes paralyzed?

Yes. If you can pull that off, more power to you.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 26, 2010, 03:22:13 PM
This makes me think of another question:
You play All Hope Lost followed by Siege. You play Dissuading Speech. Are all of their heroes paralyzed?

Yes. If you can pull that off, more power to you.
I think I just found my new T2 deck...
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 26, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
That still isn't as awesome as my anti-horse combo I have yet to pull off this year beings you're the only that uses horses.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 26, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
Wow...I am so putting Lies in my Egyptian deck now...
(Rolls eyes as everyone laughs at him for having an Egyptian deck)

By the way, if Potiphar's wife uses Lies, does that count as defeating the male hero facing her, since he would be forced back to his territory?  And if you chose your own hero (ex: Lot), and that hero was defeated, would they still go to the opponent's land of bondage?  If so, that is SWEET.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 26, 2010, 11:39:30 PM
That still isn't as awesome as my anti-horse combo I have yet to pull off this year beings you're the only that uses horses.
And you won't get to, since I'm going to be running a paralyze deck.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 27, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
...Well?
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 27, 2010, 01:28:16 PM
You won't get an answer to that question because we've been waiting for the PTB to clarify "defeats/defeated/successful/unsuccessful/etc." for over a year.
Title: Re: choose blocker VS immunity
Post by: Ammian on October 27, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
Ah...

So, what do I do with Potiphar's Wife in the meantime?  I mean, she is quite the liar...

-Ammian
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