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Elymas the Sorcerer SA: Protect Evil characters from discard and convert abilities. CBI  (other part does not matter)


Second bowl of Wrath SA EE: Discard all cards in battle.




Example:

Elymas (blocking player) in battle against a hero.  Blocking player plays Second bowl and attempts to discard all cards in battle.


1. Can characters be protected from themselves??

2. In the example would Elymas get discarded by the evil enhancement??

It's been ruled that you cannot be protected from yourself.  The protect ability is referring to being protected from what your opponent's cards can do to you.

I know it has been ruled a card cannot be protected from it's own ability but I see no reason that extends to enhancements used by the protected card. I thought this was written in the REG but I don't even see the clause about cards not being protected from themselves under the protect entry so I'm not sure where it's at.

The rule was "characters cannot be not protected from themselves", but that was removed in REG 5.0.

Was it only removed from the REG or was the actual rule removed from the game? Can enhancements be protected from themselves now?

IIRC the rule was created to stifle a combo with ANB. It was no longer needed so it was eliminated and removed from the REG.

When it was in place it did include enhancements used by characters and they are considered an extension of the character using them.

It never stopped the Arrest combo. That is what got us to re-evaluate it and realize it wasn’t necessary.