Author Topic: Changes to T2 Deck Building Rules (Read 6043 times)

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2011, 08:47:45 AM »

Quote from: Gabe on August 17, 2011, 09:45:02 AM

Gates of Samaria + Samaria. Nuff said?

OH YEA! Should have seen the damage I did last night. So far 4 is enough.

slugfencer · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2011, 06:48:29 PM »

With the new T2 deck changes--
How many Cove o death can I have? It's a curse (3 allowed) and 2 colors (2 allowed).
Thanks!

Covenant with Death (FF2)
Type: Curse • Brigade: Pale Green/Brown • Ability: 2 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate characters. Restrict players from playing Enhancements unless a character is opposed in battle. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Isaiah 28:15 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers Extended booster packs (None)

Professoralstad · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2011, 07:16:32 PM »

Quote from: slugfencer on August 18, 2011, 06:48:29 PM

With the new T2 deck changes--
How many Cove o death can I have? It's a curse (3 allowed) and 2 colors (2 allowed).
Thanks!

Covenant with Death (FF2)
Type: Curse • Brigade: Pale Green/Brown • Ability: 2 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate characters. Restrict players from playing Enhancements unless a character is opposed in battle. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Isaiah 28:15 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers Extended booster packs (None)

I believe it would be just two, but I'm not actually sure if we decided on that 100%

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2011, 11:08:55 PM »

If a card can fall under multiple criteria for limiting the number of copies per deck, apply the most stringent policy, in this case the fact that Cov O' Death is 2-color trumps the fact that it is a curse, so you can only have two copies.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #29 on:** August 28, 2011, 02:46:30 AM »

Just to check, can I now use 2 copies of Philosophy or any other evil/good enhancement in a T2 deck now?

Kirk

Arch Angel · « **Reply #30 on:** August 28, 2011, 03:34:33 AM »

Quote from: Captain Kirk on August 28, 2011, 02:46:30 AM

Just to check, can I now use 2 copies of Philosophy or any other evil/good enhancement in a T2 deck now?

Kirk

No. Philosophy has more than 2 brigades, and so is still governed by the 1-per-deck rule. Only cards with 2 brigades (regardless of good or evil) qualify for the new 2-per-deck rule

Professoralstad · « **Reply #31 on:** August 28, 2011, 05:04:38 PM »

Quote from: Captain Kirk on August 28, 2011, 02:46:30 AM

Just to check, can I now use 2 copies of Philosophy or any other evil/good enhancement in a T2 deck now?

Kirk

Not Philosophy, since that is more than two brigades. You can use two copies of any character or enhancement that is exactly two brigades, whether that be two good brigades, two evil brigades, or one good brigade and one evil brigade.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #32 on:** August 28, 2011, 10:32:52 PM »

Are you sure you want Kirk knowing such things?

Show'em how to do it Mr. Dennison!

OpenFaceBreadSandwich · « **Reply #33 on:** August 28, 2011, 10:35:31 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 28, 2011, 05:04:38 PM

Quote from: Captain Kirk on August 28, 2011, 02:46:30 AM
Just to check, can I now use 2 copies of Philosophy or any other evil/good enhancement in a T2 deck now?

Kirk

Not Philosophy, since that is more than two brigades. You can use two copies of any character or enhancement that is exactly two brigades, whether that be two good brigades, two evil brigades, or one good brigade and one evil brigade.

So, no Seeker or Soldier of God? ...not fair.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #34 on:** August 29, 2011, 02:31:49 PM »

Ok thanks. Philosophy was a bad example.

Kirk

SirNobody · « **Reply #35 on:** August 29, 2011, 02:37:35 PM »

Hey,

Quote from: RedemptionAggie on August 15, 2011, 12:14:04 AM

Are no SA sites still limited to 5 per deck?

Quote from: Gabe on August 15, 2011, 12:29:45 AM

Nothing was discussed about changing the limit for no SA Sites in T2.

I re-read the discussion among the playtesters. The entire discussion was talking about "1 brigade cards" becoming 4 per deck. That would include sites. It was only stated as characters and enhancements in the final statement of the change, which I believe was an oversight.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #36 on:** August 29, 2011, 09:38:46 PM »

So your trying to tell me only 4 Samaria sites allowed in a type 2 deck?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #37 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:29:52 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on August 29, 2011, 09:38:46 PM

So your trying to tell me only 4 Samaria sites allowed in a type 2 deck?

That's correct. Previously it was 5, and now it's 4. It's really not a big deal.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #38 on:** August 30, 2011, 12:27:12 AM »

Unless Nazzy is down...

Mr.Hiatus · « **Reply #39 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:23:19 AM »

Quote

Previously it was 5, and now it's 4. It's really not a big deal.

Oh it's definitely a big deal...

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #40 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:35:51 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on August 29, 2011, 09:38:46 PM

So your trying to tell me only 4 Samaria sites allowed in a type 2 deck?

No. If you re-read the post...

Quote from: SirNobody on August 29, 2011, 02:37:35 PM

It was stated as characters and enhancements in the final statement of the change

SirNobody · « **Reply #41 on:** August 30, 2011, 02:06:35 PM »

Hey,

Quote from: Ring Wraith on August 30, 2011, 01:35:51 AM

Quote from: SirNobody on August 29, 2011, 02:37:35 PM
It was stated as characters and enhancements in the final statement of the change

Please do not quote me out of context.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #42 on:** August 30, 2011, 02:22:51 PM »

Quote from: SirNobody on August 29, 2011, 02:37:35 PM

I re-read the discussion among the playtesters. The entire discussion was talking about "1 brigade cards" becoming 4 per deck. That would include sites. It was only stated as characters and enhancements in the final statement of the change, which I believe was an oversight.

Smokey · « **Reply #43 on:** August 30, 2011, 03:41:03 PM »

Quote from: SirNobody on August 30, 2011, 02:06:35 PM

Hey,

Please do not quote me.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #44 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:30:05 PM »

? im confused

lp670sv · « **Reply #45 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:37:46 PM »

Bottom Line 4 sites

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #46 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:48:02 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on August 30, 2011, 05:37:46 PM

Bottom Line 4 sites

No this is the bottom line.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 30, 2011, 07:24:55 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on August 30, 2011, 05:37:46 PM

Bottom Line 4 sites

No, the bottom lines are two-fold:

1) We have two elders (Gabe and Tim) who disagree on the number of sites allowed in a T2 deck. So this needs to go back to the elders for a final ruling.

2) It appears I was correct in my guess that no one gave a thought to non-SA sites and souls (specifically) until Redemption Aggie brought up the question.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #48 on:** August 30, 2011, 07:30:59 PM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on August 30, 2011, 07:24:55 PM

Quote from: lp670sv on August 30, 2011, 05:37:46 PM
Bottom Line 4 sites
No, the bottom lines are two-fold:

1) We have two elders (Gabe and Tim) who disagree on the number of sites allowed in a T2 deck. So this needs to go back to the elders for a final ruling.

2) It appears I was correct in my guess that no one gave a thought to non-SA sites and souls (specifically) until Redemption Aggie brought up the question.

We are indeed discussing the number of sites allowed. I'm not honestly sure which way it will go, but I believe that currently a majority are in favor of 4 per deck.

Gabe · « **Reply #49 on:** August 30, 2011, 07:53:48 PM »

Tim is correct. I had time to read over our discussion tonight and see that single brigade Sites with no SA should be limited to 4 per deck in T2. While others had considered that the change would impact Sites in addition to Characters and Enhancements, I overlooked that fact and reported the change incorrectly. All apologies. The original post has been edited.

As RDT points out we are discussing it and might possibly draw a different conclusion, but for now expect a limit of 4 as that's what was originally decided.

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Author Topic: Changes to T2 Deck Building Rules (Read 6043 times)

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