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Offline Mr.Hiatus

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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2011, 04:14:47 PM »
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Gabe hit it on the head. Not only was there forewarning but you could purchase them either way.
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If we're banning things to make people feel better then I don't see why not hit the OP stuff.
They technically did not get banned, and especially not for any reason to be OP. It was a great way to get people excited to make their own card, and an incentive to come to Boston as you could get your card made right then and there, and then people would share there card to other players. The OP stuff has been hit. TGT took a big hit, dominants in general took a hit, what is left that is "OP" that has not been countered? Instead of complaining about the strategies that are too strong, build a deck that targets them, or at least wait till this season to see if they are still as heavily played.

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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2011, 04:57:51 PM »
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I have to say i'm a little disappointed that i can't use my custom hero anymore because it was so fun whenever anyone did stuff to me (like removing me from the game and me getting up and leaving the table) but i figured this would be the decision when i first got it. it was fun and awesome to be tourney legal for the year ^_^
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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2011, 05:19:29 PM »
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Read the bottom, bold statement on the 2nd post here. That or similar verbage was also posted on John M's website where people could place their custom Hero order. Rob only guaranteed their legality for one season.

Would be cool if the reasoning behind the ban was posted in the OP instead of just "They're illegal".
What I'm assuming from that post is that Rob wanted them out for this season since they weren't available at Nats this year, is that correct?

Gabe hit it on the head. Not only was there forewarning but you could purchase them either way.
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If we're banning things to make people feel better then I don't see why not hit the OP stuff.
They technically did not get banned, and especially not for any reason to be OP. It was a great way to get people excited to make their own card, and an incentive to come to Boston as you could get your card made right then and there, and then people would share there card to other players. The OP stuff has been hit. TGT took a big hit, dominants in general took a hit, what is left that is "OP" that has not been countered? Instead of complaining about the strategies that are too strong, build a deck that targets them, or at least wait till this season to see if they are still as heavily played.

... Not sure what your definition of ban is but "not tournament legal" is mine.
To reiterate, I'm not concerned about the promos, I'd like the reasoning behind the ban since Rob (who I'm assuming is the deciding factor for these kinds of things) has decided to ban cards after wanting no banned cards for so long.

To answer your other question: Why is TGT still winning nats if it has taken such big hits?

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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2011, 09:38:54 PM »
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ArmedKevin makes a very important, noteworthy point.  The players purchasing them were warned.  I paid for 2 knowing full well I may not use them after one year.  It was still fun to say and enjoy the double meaning of, "Jonathan Greeson going in for the win!"  I think most people got a kick out of it too (I would say it super-loudly).

One small positive is that it cuts down on confusion.  We had a bit of a stir at NE Regionals because one player had never heard of them and was not happy about them.  Players who didn't know about them were confused and felt slightly cheated.  Banning them fixed this issue.

It does take away the satisfaction of using Christian Martyr on Jonathan Greeson though. I always found that fun


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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2011, 12:40:26 AM »
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... Not sure what your definition of ban is but "not tournament legal" is mine.
Banned is something being removed from the game because it is broken/abused. These cards were a limited time deal, with previous warning of a 1 year season. That is not a ban. That is a length of the cards life.

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To answer your other question: Why is TGT still winning nats if it has taken such big hits?

Here is what I said in my last post:
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or at least wait till this season to see if they are still as heavily played.

I said at the beginning of this year TGT/disciples would win. I was 100% right. Disciples won in T2, TGT in T1 (with a red splash). I can almost guarantee that TGT will not win, or even rank in any 2 player category this year at nats. If you have seen the new set then I do not think you would be saying what you are.

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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2011, 01:44:32 AM »
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... Not sure what your definition of ban is but "not tournament legal" is mine.
Banned is something being removed from the game because it is broken/abused. These cards were a limited time deal, with previous warning of a 1 year season. That is not a ban. That is a length of the cards life.

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To answer your other question: Why is TGT still winning nats if it has taken such big hits?

Here is what I said in my last post:
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or at least wait till this season to see if they are still as heavily played.

I said at the beginning of this year TGT/disciples would win. I was 100% right. Disciples won in T2, TGT in T1 (with a red splash). I can almost guarantee that TGT will not win, or even rank in any 2 player category this year at nats. If you have seen the new set then I do not think you would be saying what you are.

TGT gonna win FOREVER.

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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2011, 11:01:49 PM »
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TGT's still viable.  It's just that everything else is even more viable.
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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2011, 11:03:40 PM »
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TGT's still viable.  It's just that everything else is even more viable.

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Re: Change to Custom Hero Legality
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2011, 11:22:05 PM »
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Nicolas of Antioch FTW!  Search for a convert?  OP'd!
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