Author Topic: Change to Custom Hero Legality (Read 4145 times)

Gabe · « **on:** August 15, 2011, 12:36:09 AM »

Custom Heroes purchased at Boston Nationals in 2010 are no longer tournament legal.

Please visit this post to see all the changes and clarifications for the 2011-2012 tournament season.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:55:04 AM »

I have to ask, what's the reasoning behind this?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:55:40 AM »

Because John Earley is too op.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:56:54 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on August 15, 2011, 12:55:40 AM

Because John Earley is too op.

I don't think being in the 2nd place deck qualifies as OP, but yeah, Alex Olijar is pretty OP too.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #4 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:57:34 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on August 15, 2011, 12:55:40 AM

Because John Earley is too op.

Abusing your power both on the forums and in tournaments eh? Tisk Tisk.

lp670sv · « **Reply #5 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:58:31 AM »

I imagine this will probably be done ever year to keep the game from being over saturated with custom heroes. If 70% of the people at nats got one then we would have added more cards to the game from custom heroes then the new set

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:01:05 AM »

I'm pretty darn sure there were not custom heroes available this Nats. I think i would have heard about that.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #7 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:01:46 AM »

Quote from: lp670sv on August 15, 2011, 12:58:31 AM

I imagine this will probably be done ever year to keep the game from being over saturated with custom heroes. If 70% of the people at nats got one then we would have added more cards to the game from custom heroes then the new set

You couldn't get one this year. It was probably originally done just to do something special for the 15th anniversary of the game, and now it's over.

lp670sv · « **Reply #8 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:02:45 AM »

I wasn't aware you couldn't get one this year, but that in itself is enough of a reason to phase them out. Punishing other players for missing that one year of nats is a little harsh

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:03:43 AM »

Quote from: lp670sv on August 15, 2011, 01:02:45 AM

I wasn't aware you couldn't get one this year, but that in itself is enough of a reason to phase them out. Punishing other players for missing that one year of nats is a little harsh

And, to be fair, none of the heroes are that great anyway.

Smokey · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:04:10 AM »

I like how we ban the cards that hardly effect the meta, but TGT, Mayhem, and NJ remain untouched.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #11 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:04:57 AM »

*Whine, complain, blame* Yay, now rich players can only lord it over me outside of tournaments!

lp670sv · « **Reply #12 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:05:35 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on August 15, 2011, 01:04:10 AM

I like how we ban the cards that hardly effect the meta, but TGT, Mayhem, and NJ remain untouched.

These cards are still available to everyone though. The custom heroes are so limited that its not fair to players who didnt go to boston nats to not have them available. They aren't like any other card in the game

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #13 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:07:20 AM »

Actually, the only difference between my custom and Ethan is that Ethan can recur more enhancements, but I am NT.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #14 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:21:26 AM »

Well, and you get slightly better inish, and you put those GE's below deck instead of hand.

Master KChief · « **Reply #15 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:41:01 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on August 15, 2011, 01:04:10 AM

I like how we ban the cards that hardly effect the meta, but TGT, Mayhem, and NJ remain untouched.

QFT.

Mr.Hiatus · « **Reply #16 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:51:07 AM »

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These cards are still available to everyone though. The custom heroes are so limited that its not fair to players who didnt go to boston nats to not have them available.

Not fair? Not only did these players play to go, but the cards themselves cost money to make. Don't quote me, but I think they were 50 a pop? It was a limited anniversary promo, now it's over.

Smokey · « **Reply #17 on:** August 15, 2011, 02:00:11 AM »

Quote from: Mr.Hiatus on August 15, 2011, 01:51:07 AM

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These cards are still available to everyone though. The custom heroes are so limited that its not fair to players who didnt go to boston nats to not have them available.
Not fair? Not only did these players play to go, but the cards themselves cost money to make. Don't quote me, but I think they were 50 a pop? It was a limited anniversary promo, now it's over.

They were $20 or $25, It isn't even about the promo, I'm more curious as to why it happened now after having no banned cards for so long.
Also, why cards were banned that hardly matter in terms of game play.

ArmedKevin117 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 15, 2011, 03:45:05 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on August 15, 2011, 02:00:11 AM

Quote from: Mr.Hiatus on August 15, 2011, 01:51:07 AM
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These cards are still available to everyone though. The custom heroes are so limited that its not fair to players who didnt go to boston nats to not have them available.
Not fair? Not only did these players play to go, but the cards themselves cost money to make. Don't quote me, but I think they were 50 a pop? It was a limited anniversary promo, now it's over.

They were $20 or $25, It isn't even about the promo, I'm more curious as to why it happened now after having no banned cards for so long.
Also, why cards were banned that hardly matter in terms of game play.

They were $25, according to John M.

They weren't actively banned, they were passively banned (According to Rob Anderson, players who purchased them were informed they'd only be good for one season anyway).

I'm not sure if it was for the 15th anniversary AND that John M. was pushing for them so hard or just that John M. was pushing for them so hard.

soul seeker · « **Reply #19 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:41:47 PM »

ArmedKevin makes a very important, noteworthy point. The players purchasing them were warned. I paid for 2 knowing full well I may not use them after one year. It was still fun to say and enjoy the double meaning of, "Jonathan Greeson going in for the win!" I think most people got a kick out of it too (I would say it super-loudly).

One small positive is that it cuts down on confusion. We had a bit of a stir at NE Regionals because one player had never heard of them and was not happy about them. Players who didn't know about them were confused and felt slightly cheated. Banning them fixed this issue.

lp670sv · « **Reply #20 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:46:18 PM »

Quote from: soul seeker on August 15, 2011, 01:41:47 PM

ArmedKevin makes a very important, noteworthy point. The players purchasing them were warned. I paid for 2 knowing full well I may not use them after one year. It was still fun to say and enjoy the double meaning of, "Jonathan Greeson going in for the win!" I think most people got a kick out of it too (I would say it super-loudly).

One small positive is that it cuts down on confusion. We had a bit of a stir at NE Regionals because one player had never heard of them and was not happy about them. Players who didn't know about them were confused and felt slightly cheated. Banning them fixed this issue.

It does take away the satisfaction of using Christian Martyr on Jonathan Greeson though. I always found that fun

Smokey · « **Reply #21 on:** August 15, 2011, 01:49:37 PM »

Quote from: soul seeker on August 15, 2011, 01:41:47 PM

ArmedKevin makes a very important, noteworthy point. The players purchasing them were warned. I paid for 2 knowing full well I may not use them after one year. It was still fun to say and enjoy the double meaning of, "Jonathan Greeson going in for the win!" I think most people got a kick out of it too (I would say it super-loudly).

One small positive is that it cuts down on confusion. We had a bit of a stir at NE Regionals because one player had never heard of them and was not happy about them. Players who didn't know about them were confused and felt slightly cheated. Banning them fixed this issue.

I don't remember warnings, but I also have a bad memory, so I'll accept that.
It's OK to feel cheated when your opponent is on the playing field, but it isn't when you lose because of an overpowered card?
If we're banning things to make people feel better then I don't see why not hit the OP stuff.

soul seeker · « **Reply #22 on:** August 15, 2011, 02:35:59 PM »

Quote from: Smokey on August 15, 2011, 01:49:37 PM

Quote from: soul seeker on August 15, 2011, 01:41:47 PM
ArmedKevin makes a very important, noteworthy point. The players purchasing them were warned. I paid for 2 knowing full well I may not use them after one year. It was still fun to say and enjoy the double meaning of, "Jonathan Greeson going in for the win!" I think most people got a kick out of it too (I would say it super-loudly).

One small positive is that it cuts down on confusion. We had a bit of a stir at NE Regionals because one player had never heard of them and was not happy about them. Players who didn't know about them were confused and felt slightly cheated. Banning them fixed this issue.

I don't remember warnings, but I also have a bad memory, so I'll accept that.
It's OK to feel cheated when your opponent is on the playing field, but it isn't when you lose because of an overpowered card?
If we're banning things to make people feel better then I don't see why not hit the OP stuff.

To be fair to your second thought, a little later in the game after my opponent accepted the fact that Jonathan Greeson was awesome....she was introduced to Thad. It took 3 times longer for her to understand how potent he was! Even then, I don't think she really accepted what was going on as Thad walked in for the final 3 lost souls.

For those keeping a record, yes she was introduced to Jonathan Greeson and Thaddeus for the first time in the same game!

CJSports · « **Reply #23 on:** August 15, 2011, 03:49:45 PM »

I would like my $25 back because I was never told about them being banned especially seeing as my card totally breaks the game to no end.

Gabe · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2011, 03:54:25 PM »

Read the bottom, bold statement on the 2nd post here. That or similar verbage was also posted on John M's website where people could place their custom Hero order. Rob only guaranteed their legality for one season.

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