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Palegreen/Crimson hand control is gaining some strength. Serpent's Curse + Death + Distressing People = 5 card max hand for your opponent.
"Change hand size" targets the player, not the hand, so protecting the hand doesn't really help against it.
"Change hand size" alters the end of turn hand size. It's more like a restrict (Restrict opponent from ending their turn with a hand size greater than X), not a hand discard ability (if opponent has more than X cards in hand in their discard phase, they must reduce their hand).If you are restricted from searching, you still can't search a even if the deck is protected. Same idea.
I was thinking about this as well because I can see how it would not be able to be protected against but can also see how it would. It would be great if it could be clarified in the next REG update.
I understand the idea but in execution and wording it’s very confusing and unintuitive. For one thing a restrict specifies players. With wording for change hand size and hand whatever (shuffle, discard, underdeck, etc) it specifies “hand,” which appears to be targeting your hand, not the player, unlike how the restrict ability specifies players from doing X. Picture being a new player (or even a somewhat experienced player) and reading Death or Serpent’s Curse. Wouldn’t you intuitively think your hand is being targeted based upon the wording?
Quote from: Sean on November 21, 2019, 02:59:05 PMI was thinking about this as well because I can see how it would not be able to be protected against but can also see how it would. It would be great if it could be clarified in the next REG update.When you checked the REG for this topic, what part did you find that you feel needs to be clarified? As someone who understands this I don't find anything confusing under the "Change Hand Size" entry for special abilities or under the "Hand" entry in the glossary. If there's something there that doesn't make sense we'll need your help understanding specifically what that is.Quote from: Watchman on November 21, 2019, 08:29:53 PMI understand the idea but in execution and wording it’s very confusing and unintuitive. For one thing a restrict specifies players. With wording for change hand size and hand whatever (shuffle, discard, underdeck, etc) it specifies “hand,” which appears to be targeting your hand, not the player, unlike how the restrict ability specifies players from doing X. Picture being a new player (or even a somewhat experienced player) and reading Death or Serpent’s Curse. Wouldn’t you intuitively think your hand is being targeted based upon the wording?This is the first time I've heard anyone call a change hand size card "confusing" or "unintuitive". While I get that is the case for you I'd venture to say that isn't the case for everyone, or even the majority, if it's never come up before. If we follow your logic that we should be able to protect from cards that alter the game rule pertaining to hand size then when my hand is protected I should be allowed to draw beyond the maximum 16 card limit as well. That also feels unintuitive, not to mention it's something we don't want.
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