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Captured demons
« on: February 21, 2011, 11:45:10 AM »
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When the shuffler is rescued, do captured demons get shuffled?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 11:46:21 AM »
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Why would they not? They are acting like a lost soul, yes?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2011, 11:47:56 AM »
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They aren't being redeemed, so they can.
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2011, 11:48:54 AM »
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Why would they not? They are acting like a lost soul, yes?
That's just the thing, they're not.
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 11:49:13 AM »
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When the shuffler is rescued, do captured demons get shuffled?

They are not shuffled, as they are not lost souls.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2011, 11:55:29 AM by adotson85 »
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2011, 11:49:58 AM »
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Well they are impersonating a lost soul correct?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 11:51:09 AM »
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Wait a second. Is there actually a rule now that captured demons can't be redeemed?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 11:52:56 AM »
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Yes.  ;D
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 11:53:50 AM »
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Well they are impersonating a lost soul correct?

No. Captured demons are not lost souls. They are simply captured demons, however they are still cosidered evil.

Wait a second. Is there actually a rule now that captured demons can't be redeemed?

Yes. This rule has been around for awhile now.

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24490.0;msg=386405
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 11:56:47 AM »
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Well they are impersonating a lost soul correct?

No. Captured demons are not lost souls. They are simply captured demons, however they are still cosidered evil.

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24490.0;msg=386405

So can you band to a captured demon? And if not, why not?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 11:58:03 AM »
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I was not saying that captured demons are lost souls, just that they were like lost souls, therefore taking on similar characteristics.
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 12:00:44 PM »
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Yes. This rule has been around for awhile now.
I guess the reason I didn't know is because it was locked, and thus never appeared on my "unread posts since last visit" list.
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 12:07:30 PM »
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Well they are impersonating a lost soul correct?

No. Captured demons are not lost souls. They are simply captured demons, however they are still cosidered evil.

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24490.0;msg=386405

So can you band to a captured demon? And if not, why not?

No. They are not evil characters. They are simply captured demons. They would have to be reset somehow to once again become evil characters. They can still be targeted by abilities that effect evil cards.

I was not saying that captured demons are lost souls, just that they were like lost souls, therefore taking on similar characteristics.

They are not like lost souls. They are simply captured demons. I can see in your mind where you could draw similarites, but they are not similar. The only similarity is the capture.
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 01:51:20 PM »
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Adotson is correct.

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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 01:53:06 PM »
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So they don't get shuffled.
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2011, 01:53:45 PM »
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So they just sit in your LoB doing nothing?

Also, could you add a captured demon in your LoB to a site if you used guards?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 02:06:08 PM »
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Worst ruling ever. Since when are rulings based on Theology?

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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2011, 02:14:58 PM »
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Well they are impersonating a lost soul correct?

No. Captured demons are not lost souls. They are simply captured demons, however they are still cosidered evil.

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24490.0;msg=386405

So can you band to a captured demon? And if not, why not?

No. They are not evil characters. They are simply captured demons. They would have to be reset somehow to once again become evil characters. They can still be targeted by abilities that effect evil cards.

I was not saying that captured demons are lost souls, just that they were like lost souls, therefore taking on similar characteristics.

They are not like lost souls. They are simply captured demons. I can see in your mind where you could draw similarites, but they are not similar. The only similarity is the capture.

So, according to the REG, what is this new state of existing? (Not LS, Not Character) Do we call it Minnesotian?  ;)
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2011, 02:31:52 PM »
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Sorry but I though I would just piggy back off the captured topic here what do captured characters retain exactly? Just their alignment and gender? or do they get to keep like brigades and cultures also?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2011, 02:34:19 PM »
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Worst ruling ever. Since when are rulings based on Theology?
Since this is a Christian card game?  :scratch: Search me...
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2011, 02:52:45 PM »
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Sorry but I though I would just piggy back off the captured topic here what do captured characters retain exactly? Just their alignment and gender? or do they get to keep like brigades and cultures also?
I'm not entirely sure, but I know they keep their identifiers as well.
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2011, 02:55:00 PM »
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So, according to the REG, what is this new state of existing? (Not LS, Not Character) Do we call it Minnesotian?  ;)

Is it possible to 1 up and 1 down something without it having to be zero?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2011, 03:00:08 PM »
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Worst ruling ever. Since when are rulings based on Theology?
Since this is a Christian card game?  :scratch: Search me...

Since some body thought Theology was more important than how the game is played?

Hostly its a card game who cares if its theology correct?
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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2011, 03:17:34 PM »
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Given that Demons are not even "impersonating" a lost soul once they hit the LoB, can they even be targeted by cards such as Trapped in Cleverness?

Trapped in Cleverness  SA: Take any Evil Character in play prisoner and place in your land of bondage. Treat as a Lost Soul.

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Re: Captured demons
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2011, 03:27:48 PM »
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I think the "Treat as a Lost Soul" on TiC is clarifying text as "take prisoner" and "capture" already treat the character as such just with that terminology. As such, I'd venture to guess you could simply ignore that for demons.

 


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