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captured ark vs. scribe
« on: May 27, 2011, 01:51:34 AM »
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i discard captured ark from my artifact pile to uzzah's effect. can i get captured ark back with scribes effect?

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Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black/Gray • Ability: 2 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Search discard pile for an O.T. Enhancement and place it beneath deck. Negate ignore abilities. May band to a Pharisee or Sadducee. • Identifiers: Generic NT Male Human • Verse: Luke 20:46 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()


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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 02:16:51 AM »
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In the discard pile Captured Ark is at face value, which makes it a Curse. You cannot choose to target it as an Enhancement with Scribe. Golgotha + Abraham's Descendant works though.
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 05:33:45 AM »
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I thought Curses/Covenants were always treated as both until activated as one or the other....?
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 07:49:05 AM »
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actually until you choose which one to use them as they are treated as neither. in the draw/discard pile they are cov/curses at face value so you can't search for/get them with anything that targets artifacts or enhancements.
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 08:36:15 AM »
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Covenant cards and curse cards are treated as enhancements cards when used in a battle.  They are treated as artifacts when used on an artifact pile.  Covenant cards and curse cards are not treated as enhancements or artifacts when they are in a draw pile, a discard pile, or a player’s hand; they are treated as covenant cards or curse cards.

The REG and I agree with Gabe and Ryupeco11
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 03:37:27 PM »
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I sit corrected.
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 03:40:04 PM »
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that reg statement cant be entirely accurate; i was told by sir nobody that you could discard a covenant/curse to uzzah's effect from hand.
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 03:52:05 PM »
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Quote from: Master KChief on May 27, 2011, 03:40:04 PM
i was told by sir nobody that you could discard a covenant/curse to uzzah's effect from hand.
This is also true.

Basically if you are searching for a curse/covenant, or if your opponent is trying to target them (ie. to discard them), then they are only curse/covenants.  But if you have already drawn one then you get to decide how to use it.  Therefore you can decide to treat it as an art/curse/covenant and put it in your artifact pile (or discard it for Uzzah).  Or you can decide to treat it as an enh/curse/covenant and put it in battle, or storehouse (or discard it for Zimri).
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 04:19:32 PM »
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Golgotha + Abraham's Descendant works though.

Can I search for a covenant with moses and elders?

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Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: White • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: None • Special Ability: Search your discard pile for any good card, except a Dominant or Artifact card, and put it into your hand. • Play As: Search your discard pile for any good card, except a Dominant or Artifact card, and place it into your hand. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Exodus 18:21 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Ultra Rare)

What about with lost coin found?

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Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: White • Ability: 2 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: Holder may search discard pile for any good enhancement worth 3/3 or less. • Play As: Holder may search discard pile for any good enhancement worth 3/3 or less and put it hand. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Luke 15:8 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Uncommon)

For some reason I was under the impression that I couldnt place a curse on Golgotha...

Can I play Great Faith and pull out a covenant?


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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 08:20:56 PM »
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Moses and Elders - Yes, it only says good card ( non-Dom, non-Art) and a Cov fits that's description.

Lost Coin - No, in the discard pile a Cov is only a Cov

Golgotha - Yes, it was purposefully worded to allow EEs and Curses by saying "skull icon". Golgotha is "the place of the skull" after all. Let the recursion begin!

Great Faith - No, I think it just says enhancement.
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Re: captured ark vs. scribe
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 11:16:26 PM »
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nice didnt think about the skull icon part...
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