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and i contest if exchange on cards like sws is gonna exist in the game then capture should work diffrently otherwise we have 2 abilitys that do the same thing.
Quote from: megamanlan on April 18, 2012, 03:45:45 PMActually, to hold its original name and to be a 'Captured Hero' it is still a Character. But it's still being treated as a LS too. It's why the Unique rule still happens.If you want to argue that you can have a captured character and that same character at the same time, you'll have to take it up with the Elders. That's how it's been ruled.However, it is also ruled (per the REG and rulings) that Captured Characters are not the same thing as Heroes and EC. "Daniel Hero is in play" means that it cannot be a Captured Daniel Hero. They are not the same thing.
Actually, to hold its original name and to be a 'Captured Hero' it is still a Character. But it's still being treated as a LS too. It's why the Unique rule still happens.
I have never seen this rule. And if this is true, then any card that notes to a 'Captured Hero' or anything captured, wouldnt work and neither would the Unique rule.
A Lost Soul has no name, so if it's no longer a Hero or a Character but a LS it has no name. It's name is Lost Soul.
So would a player be restricted from placing say, a sammy in their territory if they have a captured one in their LOB?
ok so they can't place him but they can still exchange him in and then choose to d/c the ls one ?
What I'm saying is that they are still characters but also treated as Lost Souls. Redoubter is saying that they are no longer characters and lose their everything. Just because it says treat as a LS doesn't mean its not a Hero. The card still holds its name, type, Identifiers etc. it just has a new status, Captured.
Quote from: megamanlan on April 19, 2012, 12:50:47 AMA Lost Soul has no name, so if it's no longer a Hero or a Character but a LS it has no name. It's name is Lost Soul.A "Lost Soul" and a "Captured Hero/Evil Character" are different, and are governed by different rules. Captured characters (minus demons) share a lot of the traits that Lost Souls have, however, they are still different card types.
Was it ever decided on whether or not DS loses it's enhancement status when it becomes an EC? If so then a captured hero that is "Treated Like a Lost Soul" would cease to be a hero and then become a Lost Soul. It's rediculous to have the same phrase mean one thing on one card but something different on another card.
If captured characters are still characters (by your reasoning), then they can be targeted by Haman's Plot, banded into battle, placed under deck by Invoking Terror, etc. None of these are true. Lost Soul and Character are mutually exclusive identifiers. Lost Soul and Captured Character are not.
