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Jtower and Harvest Time.
« on: June 12, 2009, 08:27:31 PM »
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I know its ettiquette to post sa's of cards in question but we all know what jtower and harvest do.. my question was.. what was the official ruling, and explanation of why Jtower doesn't protect against/prevent HT?

and is there any inconsistency with that ruling, and AotL on Judas promo?

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Re: Jtower and Harvest Time.
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2009, 08:33:54 PM »
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JT is a prevent, Judas is a protect.  Dominants can't be negated, so JT won't stop HT, but they can be protected against, which is why you can't play AotL on Judas.

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Re: Jtower and Harvest Time.
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2009, 08:35:25 PM »
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The official ruling is in the rulebook (page 28).
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Re: Jtower and Harvest Time.
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2009, 08:36:25 PM »
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i thought in redemption terms prevent and protect were synonymous?

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Re: Jtower and Harvest Time.
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2009, 08:36:56 PM »
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i thought in redemption terms prevent and protect were synonymous?

That would not be correct.
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Re: Jtower and Harvest Time.
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2009, 08:42:13 PM »
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A prevent stops your opponent(s) from doing something, a protect stops something from being done to you.  Similar, but not the same thing.

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Re: Jtower and Harvest Time.
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2009, 08:44:11 PM »
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This is the definition of "protect" from the rulebook. I included "cannot be" since the definition refernced it:

Protect

Protect allows cards to be unaffected by specified spe­cial abilities. (See Cannot be).

Cannot be

This is a protect ability. Cannot be taken prisoner, discarded, removed from the game, captured, or converted limits or protects the potential targets of the ability, just as ignore or immune or protect limits or protects the poten­tial targets of the ability. For example, Elizabeth Elisabeths special abil­ity, “cannot be taken prisoner,” could be understood as “immune to capture.” “Cannot be” does not “prevent” or “negate” any­thing. It only limits the potential targets of a special ability. An Evil Character blocking Elizabeth Elisabeth could still use Net to capture a Hero other than Elizabeth Elisabeth. Note: If the special ability of a card includes the words “cannot” or “may not” WITHOUT the word “be”, then this is a type of prevent. For instance, if a card states that Heroes may not band, this is not a protect, but a prevent because of the lack of the word” be”. Heroes would be PREVENTED from banding.
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Re: Jtower and Harvest Time.
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2009, 08:49:23 PM »
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thanks!

 


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