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Offline yayapinata

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Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« on: September 02, 2017, 12:33:34 PM »
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What do sites even do?

Can I make a rescue attempt on a lost soul, succeed, then make another rescue attempt with another hero?

Can I make a rescue attempt on a lost soul, succeed, then use Son of God to rescue a second lost soul?

Once a lost soul is rescued, is there any way to un-rescue the lost soul?

....How would you play with a 252 card deck? Has anyone done this?

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Re: Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2017, 12:44:44 PM »
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You can put Lost Souls in sites to prevent Heroes rescuing them. For example, if your only Lost Soul is in a blue site, your opponent can only rescue that soul with a blue Hero. There are abilities that give Heroes access to sites they normally couldn't though and using sites to guard souls has been almost entirely phased out as a viable strategy. Any sites used today are because of their special ability, which on rainbow sites activates when you add the site to battle (which you can do any time during a rescue) and on non-rainbow sites activates when the site is put in your territory.

You can only make one rescue attempt per turn unless a special ability specifically allows otherwise.

Yes you can. There is no limit to the number of souls that can be rescued in one turn (unless a card specifies otherwise). The limit is on the number of rescue attempts that can be made.

The dominant Falling Away from the Women set effectively "un-rescues" a soul.

As long as you are following the deck building restrictions that is a thing you can do but it would be terrible since you would never draw all your best cards. A smaller deck is almost always straight up better than a larger one since if you're over 50, you can simply cut the least good cards from the deck until you are down to 50, making the average card in your deck better. There have been decks made in the past that had strategic reasons to use more than the minimum number of cards but I don't know of any good decks that used the max (in Type 1 anyway, there may have been some wonky Type 2 strat long ago that I don't know about).

The rulebook is unfortunately pretty outdated and missing lots of information. There is also the Redemption Exegesis Guide (REG):
http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/REG_PDF_4.1.2.pdf
It is supposed to be an exhaustive catalog of game mechanics but it is also a WIP. There is a major update coming to the REG and rulebook any time now.

With only the current versions of the REG and rulebook, it's very likely you'll miss a lot of information. When I taught myself to play years ago I had a LOT of misconceptions about how the game was played which I have had to unlearn over time and by playing with others. If you have any further questions about the game at all don't hesitate to ask.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2017, 12:51:22 PM by Kevinthedude »

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Re: Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 04:45:01 PM »
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I've recently just discovered Redemption and I am enjoying it so far. Though I have a few questions.
1. For the dominate cards are the ones with the Grim Reaper only played with evil characters while defending also vice versa for the dominates with the lamb icon?

2. If a card says negate evil characters does that mean the ability only or the evil character all together?

3. If cards that are banded together are defeated are all of them discarded or just the main card?


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Re: Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2017, 04:52:09 PM »
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1. Dominants can be played at any time nothing else is happening on your turn, or you can ask if you have "Dominant Initiative" on another player's turn, then play them if you do.  You can play Christian Martyr on a hero in battle without having an Evil Character blocking.

2. "Negate X" means "negate special abilities on X", so just the special ability.

3. It depends on how they're defeated.  If it does something to all cards in battle, they're all defeated, or if it removes one and the other lost by the numbers, then the removed one goes wherever it was sent and the one that lost by the numbers is discarded.

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Re: Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2017, 05:17:06 PM »
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How would they know if the other player has "Dominant Initiative"? I thought a Dominant could be played regardless of initiative.

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Re: Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2017, 05:27:53 PM »
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How would they know if the other player has "Dominant Initiative"? I thought a Dominant could be played regardless of initiative.

During each player's turn, that player is considered the "activate player". They get the option to play a dominant first then it passes around the table (for multiplayer). If it is not your turn, ask the active player if they would like to use their dominant initiative before you play one.

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Re: Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2017, 05:35:32 PM »
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Thanks for the clarification! I'm sure I'll have more questions coming soon.

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Re: Questions as I'm reading the rulebook...
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2017, 05:44:16 PM »
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How would they know if the other player has "Dominant Initiative"? I thought a Dominant could be played regardless of initiative.

The rule for dominants has been changed since the 4th edition rulebook (the one I believe you're reading from) was printed.  Review Kevin's answer and the entry for "Dominant" on page 102 in the Redemption Exegesis Guide (see link to guide).  Or you can scroll down to the Glossary of Terms and click on "D" and scroll down until you find the Dominant entry.

https://www.cactusgamedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/REG_PDF_4.1.2.pdf


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