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Quote from: Westy on June 12, 2014, 09:14:28 PMThe issue is now there's a reason to play SoG in the draw phase, namely on the revealer or hopper to negate it. This was specifically ruled against. You can do it to negate the soul if Hopper or Revealer is drawn in Prep, Battle, or Discard, but not during Draw or Upkeep. I can't find the thread right now, but there was an interesting discussion on that...anyone else know where it is?Quote from: Minion of Jesus on June 12, 2014, 09:18:00 PMIn regards to playing it in draw phase later, if somebody is about to play SoG and NJ for the win and you see it coming as they draw it, you can slam Mayhem and shuffle their deck (that is, if Mayhem hits the table before your opponents doms). I won a multiplayer tournament this way.If they were playing it in response to their own drawing at the beginning of the turn, it takes precedence over Mayhem. Just saying.
The issue is now there's a reason to play SoG in the draw phase, namely on the revealer or hopper to negate it.
In regards to playing it in draw phase later, if somebody is about to play SoG and NJ for the win and you see it coming as they draw it, you can slam Mayhem and shuffle their deck (that is, if Mayhem hits the table before your opponents doms). I won a multiplayer tournament this way.
My understanding of the system is that when 2 or more of the Elders agree in a thread about a ruling, then it can be considered official unless another elder posts in that thread that they disagree. In cases where there is disagreement, then the elders take the issue to the other side of the board to discuss it together. When they come to a conclusion, then they return to the original thread to post the consensus view, and all the Elders then support that ruling regardless of their personal opinions on the matter.As for this particular thread, I agree with Redoubter that dominants would NOT be played during "Draw" phase of the turn. The "Draw" phase is indeed simply drawing the 3 (or 4 with Seven Years of Plenty) cards. When that has been done, the "Draw" phase is immediately over, and the "Upkeep" phase has begun.
Redemption: the only CCG where 'how people have always played it' is the official ruling.
I was just summarizing what I know. Presently it is not being discussed so that is not official. If those guys would like to make their interpretation official they are welcome to write up a change for the definition of a Dominant as well as the official rule book. Then we can make the change official. Until then, as far as I'm concerned, we stay with the status quo. That is, a Dominant can be played at any time.
I have read through the R.E.G. just now, and I do not see any other mention as to whether or not you can play Dominants During the Draw Phase.
Question: is Dominant slapjack a thing then? While "Responding to your own action" isn't really a thing, that's the argument always used, but you can't really respond to an action from another phase. That's just silly.
Quote from: Westy on June 12, 2014, 10:01:04 PMQuestion: is Dominant slapjack a thing then? While "Responding to your own action" isn't really a thing, that's the argument always used, but you can't really respond to an action from another phase. That's just silly.
Quote from: Master KChief on June 13, 2014, 10:17:43 AMRedemption: the only CCG where 'how people have always played it' is the official ruling.To be fair that's only because no one wants to do the paperwork.
