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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2009, 06:17:23 PM »
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A good player would not find themselves locked out because of this.  There are a lot of ways to generate Lost Souls and there are also ways to negate the special ability of Lost Souls.  The point here is that it would force people to actually think about the Lost Souls that they use rather than just blindly including the staples.

For what its worth, I don't think Priests of Christ would have much of a problem rescuing the NT LS.
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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2009, 06:42:42 PM »
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The point here is that it would force people to actually think about the Lost Souls that they use rather than just blindly including the staples.
You have noted that most players devote eight of their fourteen slots to four pairs of staple Lost Souls. There is a reason for this. Given that they already could have chosen any of the other Lost Souls but they didn't, I don't understand why you think upping the limit to three is going to do anything other than having twelve out of fourteen slots devoted to the same four lost souls.

I'm trying to understand your argument. Can you please give me an example of a lost soul that sees limited play today because you are only limited to 2 copies in your deck?

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For what its worth, I don't think Priests of Christ would have much of a problem rescuing the NT LS.
You don't think you would have a problem making multiple rescues in T2 using a 4/4 standalone hero with the (two relatively weak) special abilities of Priests of Christ?

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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2009, 06:49:06 PM »
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Can you please give me an example of a lost soul that sees limited play today because you are only limited to 2 copies in your deck?
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With the extra spot available I feel that the growing strategies that our play test group is putting together in each new expansion will only make those strategies even better.  Certain Lost Souls help certain brigades or strategies more than others so it stands to reason that the ability to have 3 rather than just 2 would make for some better strategies and therefore better games.  This would lead to players including Lost Souls that aren't included as much now because it helps their deck more than just going with the cookie cutter standard.  Better strategy is a win in my book.
Specifically, any of the Lost Souls that relate to Sites.  The Demon Discard LS for demon defenses.
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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2009, 08:15:54 PM »
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This would lead to players including Lost Souls that aren't included as much now because it helps their deck more than just going with the cookie cutter standard.  Better strategy is a win in my book.
Specifically, any of the Lost Souls that relate to Sites.  The Demon Discard LS for demon defenses.

Right now people who play demon defenses already include two copies of the Demon Discard LS. People that play sites already include multiple copies of the site-related LS. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because I don't see how allowing people to add a third copy of LS they are already use two of does anything to increase variety or improve strategy.

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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2009, 01:30:19 PM »
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i think it would be great to bolster defenses with duplicate ls and sites increased up to three per deck: especially with hand discarder, speedbump, antishuffler, and colorguard ect.

however i do see emjaybee's position on the suggested change especially when it comes to 3 nt and 3 women ls: this is exactly what will happen and yet the PtB have been discussing pushing the metagame to more split offences with the inclusion of cards like:

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Im all for it yet i know im gonna hate to see all those 1st round protects and females and NT ls's OH MY!!
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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2009, 05:33:30 AM »
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There are hoppers and wanderers to get around the limitations of NT and female lost souls.  Plus, there are female NT angels.
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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2009, 01:14:57 PM »
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There are hoppers and wanderers to get around the limitations of NT and female lost souls.  Plus, there are female NT angels.
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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2009, 01:21:18 PM »
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lol you mean Arriana and Kira? lol nobody knows about them lol
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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2009, 01:28:31 PM »
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Arianna has been in my standard angel deck for over a year, She is NT and female and an angel and hey that's actually pretty cool.  Her special ability is just icing on the cake.
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Re: Can we have 3? Pretty please?
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2009, 01:36:55 PM »
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lol you mean Arriana and Kira? lol nobody knows about them lol
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