Author Topic: Can Joe be discarded in battle when.... (Read 2391 times)

dermo4christ · « **on:** March 18, 2012, 06:13:23 PM »

Hey guys,
Fairly new player asking a question about a game situation that came up recently. I'm using my Gen deck against my brother in law using pink and black defense. I was using Joe to RA and my opponent brought out HP Caiaphas to block. I enhanced Joe until Caiphas was losing. My brother in law put down the Stoning of Thebez enhancement (I think that's what the title was...can't quite remember). Anyway, the ability read "Regardless of protection discard Hero." Can he discard Joe using that card eventhough Joe says "Protect Joseph from discard"? Let me know. Thanks.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #1 on:** March 18, 2012, 06:15:23 PM »

Yes, Joseph would be discarded.

dermo4christ · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2012, 06:30:54 PM »

So Jo isn't as tough as every one thinks he is....alright then....It was an interesting battle...we got into an argument...lol.. I said he can't and my BIL said yes he can....interesting.

Redoubter · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2012, 06:55:57 PM »

Quote from: dermo4christ on March 18, 2012, 06:30:54 PM

So Jo isn't as tough as every one thinks he is....alright then....It was an interesting battle...we got into an argument...lol.. I said he can't and my BIL said yes he can....interesting.

He is very tough, but Stone of Thebes is an odd card. When something says "Regardless of...", no matter of that condition, the effect happens. These cards are not very prevalent (thankfully

).

Remember that his protection is not CBN, though. That is, the protection can be prevented, negated, or interrupted. So, a discard can affect him if one of these conditions happens:
1. His protection was prevented before the discard ability.
2. His protection was negated before the discard ability.
3. His protection was interrupted by a card that resolved in a discard ability before the protection reactivated.
4. Really random card appeared that said "Regardless of protection, discard...".

He's a pain though, don't worry

SomeKittens · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:12:24 PM »

KoT is really effective against Joe....

....Unless he's wielding one of Genesis' many CBNs....

Drrek · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:19:34 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 18, 2012, 08:12:24 PM

KoT is really effective against Joe....

....Unless he's wielding one of Genesis' many CBNs....

There's only one card in genesis that is cbn on Joe that can hit KoT, although there is another cbn genesis card that can search it out.

Edit: It seems I forgot a couple of cards, my bad

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:21:47 PM »

Pretty much anything Joe can play that's not Forgiveness will beat KoT.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:22:40 PM »

Numerous as the Stars or that other search are CBN. Eve's Descendant is CBP (but that's not really used).

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:25:11 PM »

The problem isn't defeating Joe. A quick KoT/CM can kill him without problems. The issue is that the second time my opponent has recurred him, I'm usually out of CMs.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:27:12 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 18, 2012, 08:25:11 PM

I'm usually out of CMs.

Usually? I always stock my deck with three or four, just in case.

Praeceps · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:41:54 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 18, 2012, 08:27:12 PM

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 18, 2012, 08:25:11 PM
I'm usually out of CMs.
Usually? I always stock my deck with three or four, just in case.

Living dangerously there, are we? Do you often take those kinds of risks?

Personally I forgo the use of such antiquated items as "Evil Characters" or "Evil Enhancements" and just use a dozen or so Martyrs. This also avoids the moral issues behind playing the "evil" side...

Jmbeers · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:54:06 PM »

or you can just play bab's and Iron Pan and all these silly and week "Protect" abilities just go away

except AUtO

dermo4christ · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2012, 11:27:18 PM »

wow lots of input. Thanks!!!

Korunks · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:24:13 PM »

Quote from: Jmbeers on March 18, 2012, 08:54:06 PM

except AUtO

Haha that was my bro's reaction when I started spamming Professor Oak.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:30:13 PM »

DUUUUUDE! I just realized Iron Pan lets you rescue the NT Only and Female Soul.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2012, 07:00:35 PM »

What is this "pink" defence that you speak of?

CJSports · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2012, 07:10:42 PM »

Crimson

Jmbeers · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:48:17 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on March 19, 2012, 06:30:13 PM

DUUUUUDE! I just realized Iron Pan lets you rescue the NT Only and Female Soul.

Like I said

Quote from: Jmbeers on March 18, 2012, 08:54:06 PM

play bab's and Iron Pan and all these silly and week "Protect" abilities just go away

It's a beautiful thing to be a Babs fan

JSB23 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2012, 10:59:03 PM »

Quote from: CJSports on March 19, 2012, 07:10:42 PM

Crimson

It's pronounced "Man Salmon"

dermo4christ · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:17:24 PM »

Babs fan, Jerome??? Meaning?

Jmbeers · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2012, 01:32:22 AM »

I play a Babylonian Defense, (Babs = Babylonians)

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Author Topic: Can Joe be discarded in battle when.... (Read 2391 times)

Rawrlolsauce!

Chronic Apathy

Rawrlolsauce!