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Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« on: January 24, 2011, 10:32:41 PM »
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If my Disciple has been set aside by an evil enhancement can I still choose to put him in Fishing Boat?  How about Kerith Ravine?

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Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set this aside. Each upkeep, you may place a Hero from here beneath your deck to draw X or to give your disciples access to all Sites this turn. • Identifiers: Holds up to 12 disciples.  X = # of Heroes here  • Verse: Luke 5:4

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Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set this Fortress aside. Holder may put one O.T. human Hero in this Site to protect it from harm. Set-aside enhancements work in this Fortress. • Play As: You may place one O.T human Hero from your territory or set-aside here and/or return a Hero from here to where it came from. Protect Heroes here from harm. • Identifiers: Play to set-aside area. • Verse: I Kings 17:5
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Re: Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 10:37:53 PM »
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From everything I've read I don't see why not. I don't think you should be able to to, but I think it works.

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Re: Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 10:56:04 PM »
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Gabe: Here are two old threads that also address this question, One is inconclusive, the other says 'Yes'

Inconclusive
Yes

I'm of the opinion that since you control the character you could move it into the fortress since both are in the set-aside.


However, since the enhancement is still effecting them I don't think that you can place them under with Boat - This in fact may be the exact logic that leads into not being able to move them at all.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 11:08:01 PM by Red Dragon Thorn »
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Re: Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 01:19:21 AM »
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I'm guessing both of those threads predate the hammering down of the "place in Forts" defaults.

Fortresses that don't have a non-optional entry/exit condition may be occupied by moving cards to/from territory/hand. No rule lets you move them from general set-aside to a Fortress. Kereth Ravine I would argue works because of the SA on the Fortress itself.
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Re: Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 01:32:42 AM »
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Ah, thats a good point on the non-optional entry condition -

I would agree that the SA on Kerith Ravine allows you to do so, but you're correct in that you probably can't go into Fishing Boat - I was thinking that because you could do it with KR, Boat was cool too, but I was overlooking the SA on KR.
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Re: Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 07:12:26 AM »
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I dont think so.

Because they are set aside, it is out of play. Your fortress is in play in your territory. I dont think that would make much scence to be able to bring your hero back into play by a fortress.

I am probably wrong on this, but its just an opinion!  :)
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Re: Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 07:41:30 AM »
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I'm guessing both of those threads predate the hammering down of the "place in Forts" defaults.

Fortresses that don't have a non-optional entry/exit condition may be occupied by moving cards to/from territory/hand. No rule lets you move them from general set-aside to a Fortress. Kereth Ravine I would argue works because of the SA on the Fortress itself.

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Re: Can a set-aside Hero be place in a Fortress?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 07:44:24 AM »
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The reason that the question was asked is because both of these fortress' play to the set aside area, you are correct that you couldn't move a hero from set-aside to a fortress in your territory, but that wasn't the question asked.
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