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Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« on: October 30, 2008, 03:45:50 AM »
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Can one of the Redemption lawyers confirm that Banks of the Nile/Pharaoh's Court is an "Egypt" site for the purposes of Enslaved by Egypt.

That is, if I have Banks of the Nile/Pharaoh's Court in play, then Enslaved by Egypt cannot be negated by good cards.

It says in the Reg for Banks of the Nile/Pharaoh's Court: Attributes: Egyptian • Identifiers: Egypt

The issue is that Enslaved by Egypt says specifically "...if the Egypt Site" is in play. It doesn't say "...if an Egypt site..." or "...if an Egyptian site..." I wouldn't want to play Banks of the Nile/Pharaoh's Court in a tournament, try to make a capture with Enslaved by Egypt, and have it ruled negatable because Banks of the Nile/Pharaoh's Court isn't "the Egypt" site.

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« Last Edit: October 30, 2008, 10:22:08 AM by Egyptian »
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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 06:28:28 AM »
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It does not counts as Egypt (a specific, named Site) for Enslaved by Egypt.
It does count as an Egyptian Site for Jambres or Building Egypt.

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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 07:31:05 AM »
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Yeah, I never even thought it possible that BotN/PC was the same as Egypt.
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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 09:20:26 AM »
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I think he just read the "Egypt Site" part and thought it meant "Egyptian-type Site", is all.

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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 10:15:41 AM »
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I think he just read the "Egypt Site" part and thought it meant "Egyptian-type Site", is all.

No. I'm well aware of the distinction between Egypt and Egyptian  ;D. What prompted my question was that in the REG it is listed with
"Identifier: Egypt".

If it doesn't trigger the CBN part of Enslaved by Egypt, what is the purpose of the Egypt Identifier? No other card to my knowledge makes reference to "Egypt" - they all say "Egyptian", including this card. So I'm trying to understand why the extra identifier "Egypt" was added in the REG.

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« Last Edit: October 30, 2008, 10:28:38 AM by Egyptian »
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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 01:37:03 PM »
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I believe Schaef got it, right but I'll chime in with a second opinion. 

Enslaved by Egypt mentions a specific card by name, in this case the site named Egypt.  BotN/PC does not meet that qualification as it's name is not Egypt.

If Enslaved by Egypt said "Cannot be negated if any Egyptian Site is in play" then BotN/PC would meet the requirement.  Pharaoh's Prison would work too.

As for the identifier "Egypt" listed in the REG, I believe this to be a typo.  The identifier on the physical card is clearly Egyptian.  When entering 90+ new cards into a database it would be pretty easy to inadvertently shorten Egyptian to Egypt.  Nice catch though. :)
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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 01:46:36 PM »
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If Enslaved by Egypt said "Cannot be negated if any Egyptian Site is in play" then BotN/PC would meet the requirement.

I wish that could be errated or a revision to Enslaved by Egypt would come out in the next set...With three Egypts and BoN/PC I'm just a tad short. I usually play it with four Egypts. I depend on getting one Egypt site early and with four I usually do, but with only three my chances are not so good...

Oh well, I guess it is what it is... probably need to update the REG.
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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 01:47:34 PM »
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How big is your deck? I usually use 6 egypts in a 100+ and 2 in a 70 carder.
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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 02:01:12 PM »
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REG nationality identifiers name the civilization in noun form, not in adjective form. You'll see Babylonia, Assyria, Rome, Media-Persia, etc. rather than Babylonian, Assyrian, Roman, Medo-Persian, etc. It's not a typo, it's a design decision.
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Re: Banks of the Nile is "Egypt" for Enslaved by Egypt?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 03:27:26 PM »
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How big is your deck? I usually use 6 egypts in a 100+ and 2 in a 70 carder.

56. So I suppose some people would say 4 Egypts is perhaps too many. But the sites are in there to trigger special abilities AND (occasionally) to slow the opponent down. If I get lucky sometimes I even manage to site-lock my opponent.
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