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Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Place in an opponent's territory. Negate draw abilities used by that player. All Heroes in that territory are decreased by 0/X. • Attributes: X = number of good brigades in this territory • Identifiers: OT, X = number of good brigades in this territory • Verse: Jeremiah 2:13 • Availability: Rock of Ages (Set 15)

Weakness doesn't really matter, but...

Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Place this card in a player's territory. If that player controls a Hero in battle that has decreased toughness, the blocker has initiative to play the first enhancement in battle. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Lamentations 1:6 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Rare)

I could see it that way. I could also see it as a one-time decrease of characters in territory at the time the card is played. PTB weigh in plz.

Well this is a near-useless card then. I had thought the Weakness theme of Brown was established by the time Cisterns came out. Was this just a playtesting screwup?

I believe the "in that territory" part is referring to "who" is targeted, not "when" they are targeted. If a player attacks from hand, the Hero is not affected by Broken Cisterns, but as soon as the Hero enters the territory, then it is affected from that point forward.

so the weakness/broken cisterns combo would work then?

That's running quite contrary to what's been said before, with nothing but your fiat backing it up.

Broken Cisterns affects all characters in the territory while they are in the territory.  If a new character enters the territory it is affected, if a character leaves the territory it ceases to be affected.  So if a character leaves the territory and enters battle, while in battle it is not decreased, so Broken Cisterns will never trigger weakness.

Correct.  Broken Cisterns was designed to do two things: kill off little initiatitve guys in territory, and stop speed.  It is not useless in a convert deck.

I believe the "in that territory" part is referring to "who" is targeted, not "when" they are targeted. If a player attacks from hand, the Hero is not affected by Broken Cisterns, but as soon as the Hero enters the territory, then it is affected from that point forward.

This is what it is contrary to. "In territory" can just as easily be referring to the characters of that player as to the territory itself.

any official ruling on this?

Bryon weighed in, I would consider that pretty official unless an overwhelming group of playtesters force him to flee from his position.