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Quote from: Prof Underwood on January 16, 2011, 12:54:24 AM

The traditional ruling that cards default to play unless otherwise specified is still true.  This new rule is just stating what one of those "specified" situations is.  The idea is that if a card refers to a specific card (ie. D&A targeting Job, or Prince of the Air targeting Chamber of Angels), then it targets that card even if it is NOT in play (ie. set aside).

I am trying to understand why SoG is not protected from Mayhem, Ill read the post again and come back...

The quote from Prof Underwood from January 15 is not correct, as far as I know.

That quote was in the middle of a thread where several elders were trying to explain how "instead" works.  I was quoting from a statement from Bryon, which no one disagreed with at the time and I therefore thought was going to be our explanation.  However, if you read to the end of the thread, it seems that the consensus ended up that a better way to state the ruling that we were trying to communicate was:

Quote from: Minister Polarius on January 17, 2011, 01:16:38 PM

"The conditions for an 'instead' ability may be applied to any card regardless of location."

I think that works.  Thanks!

Therefore, apparently this rule about referencing cards ONLY applies when dealing with "instead" cards.  This also would mean that protecting SoG in hand would not be covered by that rule.

Are you required to show/reveal the card you search for with Birth Foretold?

How is anyone going to remember that it can only be applied to instead abilities?

The traditional ruling that cards default to play unless otherwise specified is still true.  This new rule is just stating what one of those "specified" situations is.  The idea is that if a card refers to a specific card (ie. D&A targeting Job, or Prince of the Air targeting Chamber of Angels), then it targets that card even if it is NOT in play (ie. set aside).

So how is Prince of the Air considered an instead ability?

Prince of the Air (Pi)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Orange • Ability: 10 / 11 • Class: None • Special Ability: Return an angel in battle (except warrior class) to owner’s territory. If block is successful, place one Chamber of Angels and its contents beneath owner’s draw pile. Cannot be negated. • Play As: Return one non-warrior class angel in battle to owner’s territory. If block is successful, place one Chamber of Angels and its contents beneath owner’s deck. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: NT Male Demon • Verse: Ephesians 2:2 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Rare)

Someday, there may be a way to place your Son of God card on a Manger artifact for some really nice effect.  When that is possible, it might be very nice to play Brith Foretold first.  

My nativity set!  YAY!  Can I be a playtester for this set?  please!!!



Also, if you play birthforetold, you can immediately follow it with playing the card since you are responding to your own action.  if you decide to not immediately play the SoG, then you risk it being targeted while in your hand.


and I am serious about wanting to be a playtester for that nativity set.  I have wanted one for a long time.  please keep me in mind.