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Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« on: June 11, 2011, 02:15:15 AM »
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Are they considered prophets? 

I was reading through 1 Chronicles 25: 1-5
"....They set them apart to serve the Lord by prophesying while harps, lyres, and cymbals were being played.....the direction of Asaph.  He prophesied under the king's direction......All of them were sons of the king's prophet Heman....."

It sounds pretty clear to me.  I know the Bible has many different people with the same name but I'm pretty sure these verses refer to our existing characters.  Anyone else have input?
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Re: Asaph and Heman
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 08:27:38 AM »
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Nice find. That would be really cool but I've never seen anything else about them being prophets.
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Re: Asaph and Heman
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 11:45:03 AM »
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Straight biblical evidence.  Good find.  I'd say they were.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 09:12:57 AM »
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hoping for some elder response to this
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 10:00:14 AM »
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It seems Heman certainly would be, but the part of the passages you skipped only specify Asaph's sons as prophesying. Also, I'm not completely sure what the context of prophesying is, as prophesying with instruments seems to be different than the usual method of prophesying.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 03:01:18 PM »
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I skipped some of it because it seemed a lot to type out all the verses.  I don't know if your translation is different than mine but it seems like it does specify Asaph as prophesying:

"1. David and the commanders of the army set apart some of the sons of Asaph, Heman and Jeduthun.  They set them apart to serve the Lord by prophesying while harps, lyres and cymbals were being played.  [This is where it specifies about the sons]  Here is the list of the men who served in that way.

2.  From the sons of Asaph came Zaccur, Joseph, Nethaniah and Asarelah.  The sons of Asaph were under the direction of Asaph.  He prophesied under the king's direction.  [He is referring to Asaph]

My translation doesn't say that they prophecied with those instruments but while the instruments were being used though I'm not 100% sure on the context and content of the prophesying either, so additional schorlarly opinions are welcome. 
I don't know about Heman but Asaph wrote several of the psalms that are included in the Word of God so that seems it really would be prophecy. 
I don't know that writing part of Scripture automatically makes you a prophet (what non-prophets wrote Scripture?) but that combined with it saying he prophecied seems conclusive to me. 
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 04:33:51 PM »
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Wow, Musician/Prophet decks ftw?
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2011, 04:51:27 PM »
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Quote from: Alex_Olijar on June 12, 2011, 04:33:51 PM
Wow, Musician/Prophet decks ftw?

Should try it, green david is pretty ballin
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 08:24:19 PM »
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The Bible uses the term prophesy multiple ways. I'm aware of at least three different definitions that are found in scripture:

1) To foretell or predict by divine inspiration
2) To accurately expound the written scriptures
3) To worship or praise (often through the use of music)

It seems like the verses you've found are using the third definition of prophesy. I'm not aware of Redemption making a distinction between the three. It seems to me that our musical friends would be considered prophets.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 09:45:52 PM »
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This is a game changer.  Now we have some interesting decks to make!
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 09:48:20 PM »
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Not too much.  They're still white.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2011, 09:49:51 PM »
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But with a green/white Daniel being released in just a few weeks... ::)
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2011, 09:52:53 PM »
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Still skeptical here.  One dual guy doesn't help much.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2011, 09:54:29 PM »
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There's little-to-no benefit to being a Prophet if you lack Green Brigade.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 12:00:22 AM »
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 09:52:27 AM »
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Next season I'm playing Muicans/prophets again. Right now I'm sticking to TGT.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011, 11:47:54 AM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on June 13, 2011, 09:54:29 PM
There's little-to-no benefit to being a Prophet if you lack Green Brigade.
Prophets of any brigade prevent Arioch's SA.
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Re: Asaph and Heman: Prophets?
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 02:03:13 PM »
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Quote from: EmJayBee83 on June 15, 2011, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Minister Polarius on June 13, 2011, 09:54:29 PM
There's little-to-no benefit to being a Prophet if you lack Green Brigade.
Prophets of any brigade prevent Arioch's SA.

And don't get repelled by False Prophecy!
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