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SS take on NJ rule change (for Bryon's benefit)
« on: September 18, 2011, 02:03:01 AM »
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The other thread got a bit convoluted. So I decided to post my tests here.  I hope you read this Bryon.

So far I've played 2 games since the new rule proposal.
Game 1:  My opponent didn't want to use the new rule proposal, so I kind of took note unofficially of what was going on.
    the 2 decks:   My opponent: Experienced with fast proven deck   My deck: slow and testing new defense.
Outcome:  I lost 5-3.
How it played out (if rule used):  My opponent did rescue his own, but it was to cut his hand down.  I believe the outcome would not have changed because my opponent would have discarded/laid down needless cards.  I didn't have more than 2 lost souls out at a time, so it would have slowed him down some, but my deck was too large.
    I had to use SoG without NJ because of the size of deck (70 cards).  Again, small delay but not game changing.

Game 2:  My opponent and I agreed to play the new rule.  Lost souls were plentiful, but it kept my opponent from lost soul locking me out.  With that said, I won 5-4 with a slightly smaller deck than my last game's deck (63 cards).  My opponent likely would have won had he been able to use the "big 2" defensively. The rule saved me as we were jockying for the advantage at end game.  Plenty of lost souls everywhere, so drought was not an issue.

I still believe that splitting the difference (SoG=any lost soul and NJ=only your opponent) could be fair as well.  I will continue to test the original proposal before testing my thoughts.

Games with rule: 5
    No difference   3
    Big difference   2
« Last Edit: September 19, 2011, 12:18:01 PM by soul seeker »
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Re: SS take on NJ rule change (for Bryon's benefit)
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 12:17:14 PM »
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Played 3 more games:  all of my opponents did not want (or know how) to play the new proposed rule.
Game 3:  This opponent had not heard of the new rule proposal, so we decided to play as normal.
        The rule would not have changed this game at all.  My opponent never drew their SoG, and I didn't need to use NJ.  FWIW, I did still use SoG in their territory to somewhat follow the new rule.

Game 4:  My opponent preferred not to play the new rule because of lack of preparation (they were testing tourney decks and not wanting to playtest future rules).  It turns out that the new rule would have changed the outcome of this game big time.  Though I had my shot at winning (multiple shots in fact), the game still ended in a 4-4 tie because I am a noob.  ;)  I locked out their heroes and they locked out available lost souls.  Had we played the proposed rule, I am confident I would have won (even with my mistakes).  I'm pretty sure my opponent agreed with this assertion (I think they said as much if I remember right).

Game 5:  We establish late if this game would play the proposed rule or not, so we decided to play as normal.  Turns out, it wouldn't matter.  My opponent's NJ was nailed by "deck discard" LS, and my opponent conceded before I was able to use my combo for the win.  With that said, I would have a hard time using the combo because my opponent was not drawing a lot of lost souls (only 2 out of 33 cards).  It was tough.
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Re: SS take on NJ rule change (for Bryon's benefit)
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 12:26:11 PM »
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Who hasn't heard of the rule change?
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Re: SS take on NJ rule change (for Bryon's benefit)
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 12:34:48 PM »
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Who hasn't heard of the rule change?
I would rather not share my opponents' name especially in this case when it doesn't matter.  My opponents have not gave me their permission so I don't include their name or decks that they played.  I didn't feel there was a need.
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Re: SS take on NJ rule change (for Bryon's benefit)
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 12:52:34 PM »
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How do you feel this rule change will effect the meta/deck building?
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Re: SS take on NJ rule change (for Bryon's benefit)
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 03:55:48 PM »
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How do you feel this rule change will effect the meta/deck building?
Lost Soul generators will be practically be a must unless you want to wait until the end of the game to use your Combo.  It was rare for most of the games for me to be able to use the combo sooner.  All 5 games attested to that.
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