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First of all, even if you could bring it back manually, set aside cards return to where they were set aside from (unless it was battle).
Second, how is "When that deck has no cards, return those cards from set-aside to deck." not a specified duration? Just because it isn't exactly a turn count like most duration based set asides, it is still specifying a time in the future when they come back on their own.
Didn't know this. Is this in the REG? (I believe you, just didn't realize I missed an important rule like this)
Quote from: jmhartz on March 15, 2018, 01:26:53 PMDidn't know this. Is this in the REG? (I believe you, just didn't realize I missed an important rule like this)It was an update to REG 5.0 after we realized that wasn't already the rule (since we playtested Seize Him that way).
Quote from: Kevinthedude on March 15, 2018, 12:13:32 PMSecond, how is "When that deck has no cards, return those cards from set-aside to deck." not a specified duration? Just because it isn't exactly a turn count like most duration based set asides, it is still specifying a time in the future when they come back on their own.It can be interpreted either way, I think. If I was going to create a card that had no duration but had a random trigger that would happen at some point in the future and would send the set-aside cards somewhere if they still happened to be set aside at that time, I'd word my card like SWJ.
Quote from: jmhartz on March 15, 2018, 01:26:53 PMQuote from: Kevinthedude on March 15, 2018, 12:13:32 PMSecond, how is "When that deck has no cards, return those cards from set-aside to deck." not a specified duration? Just because it isn't exactly a turn count like most duration based set asides, it is still specifying a time in the future when they come back on their own.It can be interpreted either way, I think. If I was going to create a card that had no duration but had a random trigger that would happen at some point in the future and would send the set-aside cards somewhere if they still happened to be set aside at that time, I'd word my card like SWJ.The way I understand "duration", it means that if a set aside ability provides any way of getting the cards back, the duration is until that happens. Your interpretation only works if duration is defined to only refer to a set number of turns.
Quote from: The Guardian on March 15, 2018, 01:35:10 PMQuote from: jmhartz on March 15, 2018, 01:26:53 PMDidn't know this. Is this in the REG? (I believe you, just didn't realize I missed an important rule like this)It was an update to REG 5.0 after we realized that wasn't already the rule (since we playtested Seize Him that way).Clarifying then, are we back to seize him returning cards to the location they were set aside from? Thus it's no longer a way to get rid of Son of God from your opponent permanently?
When a card returns from the set-aside area it goes the location it was set aside from, or territory if the battle it was set aside from has ended.
