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If you activate an artifact then it’s considered an activated artifact. When the ability activates, however, is dependent upon what the wording on the ability says. In regards to CA, if you activate it and there’s an active art in oppoennt’s territory then it would get shuffled and that would count as one of two times CA works. If you activate it and there’s no active art then it’s still considered an activation and you burned up one of two times for nothing.
Negative. When the card reads “upon activation” you have to manually deactivate then activate it (or you can simply say that you’re reactivating it). If you left it active by accident on your next turn it’s ability would not trigger and thus be used a second time, but it can still be targeted as an active artifact since it’s face up.
No, if you forget and leave captured ark up with no other artifacts to shuffle and then proceed to the next phase, captured ark is used once.Instaposted
So the words “upon activation” and “on activation” on every printed art are superfluous words and have no specific meaning any longer?
Quote from: Watchman492 on April 03, 2018, 12:52:18 PMNegative. When the card reads upon activation you have to manually deactivate then activate it (or you can simply say that youre reactivating it). If you left it active by accident on your next turn its ability would not trigger and thus be used a second time, but it can still be targeted as an active artifact since its face up.OK, so would CA automatically "trigger" as soon as anyone in the game activated an artifact on the table?(And then, it would be used immediately to shuffle the opponent's artifact?)Thus, it would happen during someone else's turn?Thanks
Negative. When the card reads upon activation you have to manually deactivate then activate it (or you can simply say that youre reactivating it). If you left it active by accident on your next turn its ability would not trigger and thus be used a second time, but it can still be targeted as an active artifact since its face up.
Beginning with RoJ (and I believe this is reflected in REG 5.0) artifacts always take effect when they are activated unless they have an "At any time" clause (Four Drachma Coin) or they have some sort of trigger (The Seven Trumpets). Going forward this will be good for consistency, but it does mean that we essentially have a lot of artifacts with extra wording.
I think "once per round" counts as an "at any time" clause, so Grail still needs the errata.
Quote from: RedemptionAggie on April 04, 2018, 01:51:45 PMI think "once per round" counts as an "at any time" clause, so Grail still needs the errata.That is my understanding as well.
I am Creator only works when it is activated, and has been ruled that way for quite awhile (I know originally it was ruled that you could use it "willy-nilly").
I'm trying to understand the logic how several cards with "upon activation" that have been around all the way up to CoW no longer really mean much and how an art automatically activates each prep phase instead of manually being activated. On top of this, the holder forgets his art's ability but remembers it in the battle or discard phase and then goes back and tries to find a valid target and try and "fix" the fact that the holder forgot about the art's activation. To me, it is much more simpler to stick with the wording that's on the card that tells you what to do instead of a hidden rule in the REG about how and when arts activate (no new player will know this, and some intermediate players won't know it either). It seems much more simpler to me if the holder forgets about activating the art then that's his fault and he missed his opportunity instead of having to try and go back and fix the problem when that phase has well passed. This new way of art's abilities activating seems to me more convoluted and broken than how it was prior to this change. It's really sad to see how wording on cards don't have much meaning but instead is subject to so many "play-as," errata and rules from a very large rulebook(s) that override card wording (I understand that it is important with some cards in which errata is needed), especially when it's as recent as CoW. Why make something that was simple ("upon activation do X") more complex when it isn't necessary?