Cactus Game Design Message Boards

1) Is a limited use artifact that spends its final use is immediately discarded?

2) If that final use is negated, would the art would be returned with one use left?

3) (The weird one, which I'd say would never come up except this is Redemption and someone would try it just because) If I use Holy Grail for one conversion, then later it is negated and discarded, and I activate a second HG, which makes a conversion, thus spending the last possible use is it discarded even though it was used only once?

Holy Grail (Wa)

Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Holder may convert one human Evil Character per turn into a Hero in the brigade color of Holder's choice. Holder is limited to two such conversions per game. • Errata: Once per turn holder may convert a human Evil Character in a territory to a Hero in brigade of Holder's choice. Holder is limited to two such conversions per game. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Matthew 26:27-28 • Availability: Warriors booster packs (Rare)

I believe the answers are yes, yes, and "Steve, just shut up already!"

(I want the answer to #1 to be no, but I'm pretty sure it's not)

1. Yes.

2. An artifact with a limitation discards itself as part of the final use of the limit and is in the discard pile when it finishes resolving. Artifacts in the discard pile cannot currently be negated by anything in the game except the rare circumstance of an artifact being discarded from battle (like Magic Charms) which can be interrupted with an ITB.

3. I don't think so. I believe it would sit there preventing itself from using its second convert.