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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2015, 07:39:14 PM »
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The Salome example is not a good one because it is clear from the verse which Salome it is.  I know people often decry some of the rules we have, but I'm not sure how we could have consistency and let Rachel search out Joseph the Carpenter.  If this were a game with made-up names for the characters, sure, but the source of the cards is biblical and that is why this game is so unique in this way as well.

It's not inconsistency, it's just one of the quirks of a game built based on the Bible.

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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2015, 08:44:59 PM »
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You're actually supporting my point. We all know that King David and David are the same person biblically. Therefore I think Promised Land should be usable by David. Likewise, back to the original topic, we all know that Saul and Paul are the same person biblically.
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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2015, 09:03:51 PM »
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You're actually supporting my point. We all know that King David and David are the same person biblically. Therefore I think Promised Land should be usable by David. Likewise, back to the original topic, we all know that Saul and Paul are the same person biblically.

Paul represents the new creation in Christ, a missionary who left the ranking Pharisee life of Saul, if we want to look at it biblically as well.  King David is a very different person both in terms of who he is and what he represents than just David, as he has fulfilled prophecy and been crowned by then.

But all this is not going to change things, particularly for Saul/Paul where the sides of the card are perfectly clear on which one counts as which.  This isn't the first time we've had this discussion, won't be the last, and I doubt the result will change then either :)

This is a game, and we have to make rulings.  They won't all fit everyone's interpretation (it would take awhile for me to list all of my issues), but they have to be made.  If we reversed the rulings, we'd have similar arguments about inconsistency of rulings on the other side.  This is the ruling that was chosen.

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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2015, 10:17:24 AM »
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Can you have Saul and Paul in your territory at the same time? What about David and Kind David?

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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2015, 10:34:23 AM »
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Can you have Saul and Paul in your territory at the same time? What about David and Kind David?

No to both, which is the point YMT is trying to make. KD/David and Saul/Paul are simultaneously both the same character and different characters.
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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2015, 10:35:58 AM »
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Can you have Saul and Paul in your territory at the same time? What about David and Kind David?

No to both
Thanks, can Jonathan (Wa) band to King David or just David?

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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2015, 11:06:55 AM »
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It has been ruled that all cards referencing David also work with King David, however cards referencing King David (like Promised Land) only work with King David and not regular David.

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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2015, 11:34:09 AM »
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It has been ruled that all cards referencing David also work with King David, however cards referencing King David (like Promised Land) only work with King David and not regular David.
Ok thanks, that make sense, sort of... :scratch:

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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2015, 11:37:02 AM »
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It has been ruled that all cards referencing David also work with King David, however cards referencing King David (like Promised Land) only work with King David and not regular David.
Ok thanks, that make sense, sort of... :scratch:
Kudos if it makes sense to you cuz it doesn't to me, haha. :P

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Re: Arrest in Philippi
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2015, 11:47:49 AM »
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It has been ruled that all cards referencing David also work with King David, however cards referencing King David (like Promised Land) only work with King David and not regular David.
Ok thanks, that make sense, sort of... :scratch:
Kudos if it makes sense to you cuz it doesn't to me, haha. :P
I sort of the same, I kind of get it but I will accept it even thought I don't think it makes a lot of sense. If two cards are the same guys, then shoud be able to do the same things! :o

 


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