Author Topic: Are special abilities of duplicated generic characters in battle cumulative?  (Read 1024 times)

Offline stefferweffer

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I guess I should first explain the scenario/card I'm referring to:

Can the Entrapping Pharisee be banded into a battle that would include another Entrapping Pharisee?  I thought that because they are generic that they could be (like the generic 1/3 Pharisees), but I might be remembering wrong about this.

This is how it would happen.  

1)  I block with my 1/3 Pharisees who may band to ALL Pharisees.  It is my understanding that this means ALL OR NOTHING, and I can't just pick the 1 or 2 I might like to band to.
2)  Either I have the Entrapping Pharisee in territory and my opponent has one as well, OR I have one in my territory and my partner in a team game has one in his territory.
3)  Assuming both of them are allowed to be banded into the same battle, does my opponent now have to reveal and then discard 2 cards, or can he reveal and discard only one card to satisfy the condition of both characters?
4)  If it turns out that you CAN'T have two of them in the same battle, then I assume the "ALL" on the 1/3 Pharisees means "all Pharisees that can legally be brought into battle"?

Entrapping Pharisee:  (From memory, forgive me if I get something wrong)  Reveal a NT grey card in hand.  Choose opponent's hero in battle.  That hero is captured unless they reveal and then discard a card matching the hero's brigade.  Cannot be negated.

Thanks for your help!

Oh, another thing that came up in our team game!  Are sites shared between partners, since the land of bondage is shared?  Thanks again.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 06:22:32 PM by stefferweffer »

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I believe that The Entrapping Pharisee is unique. Most cards with the title "The [Something]" are considered unique (like The Strong Angel), and usually if there is a question on the uniqueness/genericness of a card, it is on the identifier (it is not). So only One TEP is allowed in battle at a time.

1) The 1/3 Pharisees bring in all possible targets, or none. So once one TEP is brought in, the other is no longer a possible target, and thus only one enters battle.

2) Irrelevant.

3) They can't both be brought in, but if they could, then the first one would capture, and the opponent either allows it or discards to stop it. Then the second one captures, and the opponent either allows it or discards to stop it. The opponent would have to discard two cards to stop the abilities of two TEP's. The power of his ability is what likely made him a unique character, so as to avoid 5 of them joining a T2 battle.

4) True that.

I haven't played teams, but I'm guessing that occupied sites would be shared, since they are in the LoB, but unoccupied sites aren't shared, since those remain in territory.
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I also would think TEP is unique due to the "the" and the fact that pharisee is "pharisee" not "pharisees".  However, the Bible verse tells that there were a few that asked Jesus.  Although it is the case that not all did, there was more than 1.

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Most cards with the title "The [Something]" are considered unique (like The Strong Angel)...

It was ruled that ALL characters entitled "The [Something]" are unique.

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Most cards with the title "The [Something]" are considered unique (like The Strong Angel)...

It was ruled that ALL characters entitled "The [Something]" are unique.

That's what I was thinking, I just couldn't remember about The Watchman.
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