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Anti-ignore lost soul
« on: April 08, 2010, 11:43:56 AM »
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Proverbs 22:10 ('anti-ignore')
Type: Lost Soul • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: While you have only one evil brigade in play, negate all ignore abilities on O.T. good cards. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Proverbs 22:10


Let's say my opponent is using some other evil brigade other than yellow...(er, fine...evil gold...), maybe black for this example.  My opponent has the anti-ignore lost soul in their LoB.

May I use my provisioned Miriam to choose my evil gold EC to block?  Does my Miriam now ignore the blocking EC?
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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 11:47:40 AM »
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I'm a bit lost, but the lost soul says "in play", not "in territory".  Also, gained abilities CBN, so Provisions > anti-ignore ls.

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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 11:52:58 AM »
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May I use my provisioned Miriam to choose my evil gold EC to block? 
Yes. Miriam's ability is negated at the time the blocker was chosen

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Does my Miriam now ignore the blocking EC?

This I'm not sure on. I know that your = ownership + control, but I'm not sure if "you" works the same way. As in, are "the cards you have" = "your cards"? If so, Miriam would not ignore the EC.
If not, it really depends on what "the cards you have" does equal.

I'm a bit lost, but the lost soul says "in play", not "in territory".  Also, gained abilities CBN, so Provisions > anti-ignore ls.

You are lost. The anti-ignore LS isn't trying to negate Provisions, it's trying to negate Miriam. Also, the "in play" is why it's a question. Assuming the opponent has only one brigade in play before Miriam attacked, does adding an evil gold card add to your opponent's brigade count? If so, then Miriam would be ignoring the gold EC.
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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 11:55:34 AM »
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I think You=Your in this one, so no.
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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 01:43:29 PM »
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I think You=Your in this one, so no.
There must be some emendment, some codicil, some loophole, that we can find. I soooooooooooo want this to work.

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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 02:00:35 PM »
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I think You=Your in this one, so no.
There must be some emendment, some codicil, some loophole, that we can find. I soooooooooooo want this to work.

It's been working in the NW for awhile...


...but with the new REG and all...I'm just trying to nail this down.   ;)
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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 02:01:52 PM »
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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 04:17:48 PM »
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#1 - I think this combo should probably work

#2 - Since this is basically another pre-block ignore, I don't like it

#3 - If a player is using evil gold defense and puts Miriam in their offense, they are asking for trouble.  In addition, they have to also have at least 1 green hero to play the provisions on Miriam.  Both of these downsides make this combo potentially self-damaging that I don't think it will become a huge problem.
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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010, 04:34:21 PM »
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at least 1 green hero to play the provisions on Miriam.  Both of these downsides make this combo potentially self-damaging that I don't think it will become a huge problem.

I bet Miriam would be up for the task of being the green hero...just sayin'  ;)
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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2010, 04:39:33 PM »
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#2 - Since this is basically another pre-block ignore, I don't like it

However, this combo relies on either you being able to put the anti-ignore soul in their territory, or their deck having it to begin with.

at least 1 green hero to play the provisions on Miriam.  Both of these downsides make this combo potentially self-damaging that I don't think it will become a huge problem.

I bet Miriam would be up for the task of being the green hero...just sayin'  ;)

LOL, I was about to bring this up too, lol.

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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2010, 04:51:34 PM »
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However, this combo relies on either you being able to put the anti-ignore soul in their territory, or their deck having it to begin with.
That is another good point.  And thanks to both of you guys for pointing out the flaw in my thinking.  Corrected above :)

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Re: Anti-ignore lost soul
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 06:45:24 PM »
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Prisoner Transfer
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Gray/Gold • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Transfer a captured Hero from one player to another, or exchange two Lost Souls. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Acts 23:31


Oh look...it can be used by yellow evil gold.   ::)
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