Cactus Game Design Message Boards

Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: DrowningFish on December 28, 2014, 01:04:24 AM

Title: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: DrowningFish on December 28, 2014, 01:04:24 AM
I've ALWAYS had this confused. So someone help me out haha
Angels, can they be
A)converted
B)rescued
Demons,can they be
A)converted
B)rescued

I know Angelic rebellion for 1A but the wording had me somewhat confused
One angel (excluding Michael Captain of the Host and Gabriel) "falls" and becomes a Crimson evil character
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: ChristianSoldier on December 28, 2014, 01:11:44 AM
The answer to all of those questions is no they cannot... except in the case of Angelic Rebellion which can convert an Angel (with a few exceptions) to an evil character.
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: DrowningFish on December 28, 2014, 01:16:35 AM
Thanks! Wasn't sure.if it was just the one specific case or not.
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: Nameless on December 28, 2014, 09:07:12 AM
For the demons, I do not think that there are any cards that convert them, but if there is one, it works.  Captured demons cannot be rescued.  They are captured demons, not lost souls.
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: YourMathTeacher on December 28, 2014, 10:13:49 AM
Any character can be converted, as long as the card can target them. The vast majority of convert cards specify humans.
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: ChristianSoldier on December 28, 2014, 01:34:16 PM
From the REG's default conditions for Convert:

A convert ability only targets humans unless a specific non-human target is specified.
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: Crashfach2002 on December 28, 2014, 03:45:21 PM
I could be wrong but I believe the only card that converts a non-human at this moment is Angelic Rebellion from the Apostles set.
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: YourMathTeacher on December 28, 2014, 04:24:14 PM
From the REG's default conditions for Convert:

A convert ability only targets humans unless a specific non-human target is specified.

That seems like a silly default if all convert cards specify the target. Are there any convert cards that do not specify "human" or a "specific non-human" target?
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: Redoubter on December 28, 2014, 06:53:17 PM
From the REG's default conditions for Convert:

A convert ability only targets humans unless a specific non-human target is specified.

That seems like a silly default if all convert cards specify the target. Are there any convert cards that do not specify "human" or a "specific non-human" target?

Love is the first one to mind, but I doubt it is the only one.  That's why we have default conditions :)
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: LukeChips on December 28, 2014, 07:06:15 PM
So you couldn't use Love on a demon? That's lame!
Title: Re: Angels and Demons Questions
Post by: The Guardian on December 29, 2014, 01:37:52 AM
From the REG's default conditions for Convert:

A convert ability only targets humans unless a specific non-human target is specified.

That seems like a silly default if all convert cards specify the target. Are there any convert cards that do not specify "human" or a "specific non-human" target?

Sanctifying Faith does not specify human in the original ability (though it does in the errata/play-as).
SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal